Which regional is able to fill hiring classes
 

If there is another thread that covers this please point me in that direction.

So, I keep hearing that regionals aren't able to attract enough new pilots. Are there any regionals that are able to attract pilots? And if so, which ones are filling their classes?

Which regional is able to fill hiring classes
 

PSA. Running classes every two weeks 20+/class.

Mesa.

I hear Republic Q classes are a 50% show rate at best.

I was just at the Aero Crew Solutions job fair at DFW last week. Many pilots were there for Spirit airlines. I think there were only 25 pilots who were there specifically for the Regionals. Here's a list of Regional companies who attended to try a get those mere 25 candidates.
Horizon
PSA
GoJet
SkyWest
Cape Air
Piedmont
Compass
Endeavor
Envoy
Trans States
Ameriflight
Allegiant
And a few more I can't remember.

psa is filling classes just fine…2 classes a month with 20+ in it…upgrade is 2 years and 8 months right now...

Which regional is able to fill hiring classes
 

I heard Skywest has been unable to fill classes.

Compass, people getting on now will upgrade in a year. Weekly classes until next summer atleast.

I heard compass is starting to not fill classes as well.

Why don't you ask Tunes and some of the others in the Compass thread if that is accurate...


I'll give you a hint, it's not ;)

Horizon runs small classes, but they have been full.

AWAC, I didn't take my ATP quickly enough and got bumped

what you trying to say? :D

Compass is definitely having no problems filling classes...there have been people in the pool since May that are just getting Sept classes.

Compass is having no issues whatsoever filling classes. We are actively interviewing, hiring and filling each and every class with no issue. People want to come to compass.

Lask SKW class had 34 people. Not sure what the target was, but I consider that pretty good.

It seems like everyone except Envoy is having no trouble what so ever. Some "pilot shortage" we've got here.

There is none; nor will there ever be one. There are enough CFIs, pipeline patrol, survey, skydiving and part 135 pilots in the hiring pool right now to fill every single slot at the regionals. This shortage issue is only a "shortage" of pilot applicants who have never busted a checkride or gotten a DUI charge on their record. Beyond that, there are more than enough pilot applicants for the regionals to hire. Which is exactly why the pay has not risen in the slightest. Why should it when there are so many pilots still applying?

Are guys getting hired with duis?

So to summarize this thread, the cheerleaders for each regional are saying the classes at their regionals are full.

Wouldnt it be better for everyone if the classes were empty? I mean am I the only one that thinks that way? Perhaps then management would raise pay to intise new blood.

Whatever, carry on

Yeah, I thought at the RAA convention they cited something like 13 out of 14 regionals were missing recruiting goals, and I believe it was Horizon who was hitting theirs. I come on here, and its all unicorns and rainbows just about everywhere apparently. I could see Compass getting an extra bump with the AA flying announcement, though.

ExpressJet is having no problems filling our classes of 0.

You are 100% correct!

I have been getting ALPA e-mails all week saying the issue was partly due to first year FO pay. I have yet to see any ALPA MEC negotiate and be successful with raising first year pay. I can't imagine any regional MEC has even tried to raise first year pay. ALPA simply does not care to raise the bar. Pay increase come in percentages and new hires best not spend their meager increases in one place. When you have a group like Endeavor willing to cap FO pay years before any of them can imagine an upgrade I don't think we need to rally congress to change things when we can't even fix the Bush League.

Well, Endeavor said they wanted to hire 400 this year.... they are about 380 short of their goal as of the latest seniority list a few weeks ago.... I guess every pilot on the planet isn't drooling at the chance to fly for Delta like they think. :eek: And there certainly aren't that many being fooled with the bottom of the barrel FO pay and continued downgrades somehow creating a 2 year upgrade for a new hire. Enjoy that commute to reserve in JFK for a max of 30K

The classes could be "full", but that just means they are smaller or less frequent than they would other wise be. If company has a continious hireing department open all year they're not hitting their goals.

Not true. Our union here at Envoy adopted "nobody can staff it!!" As their battle cry. There is NO WAY our MEC could have possibly made a mistake.

Oh, and good luck staffing all that new flying. I know all you other Regionals can't hire even if you think you can. How do I know? My MEC at Envoy told me so.

Can I get a recommendation please? When will classes start again? Thanks.

I thought I read on another thread that due to difficulty in hiring they are looking at people without 4 year degrees? You are guaranteeing a year upgrade? The jockeying for pilots among the regionals is just beginning, things change fast, expect the unexpected the next 2 years.

Not only are they starting to have problems hiring, they are very behind on training those who have been hired.

I am sure that person had an internal rec. Not guaranteeing but it's simple math. 440 pilots right now - 150 flows next year = 290 plus the 400 needed to be hired for AA and the flows = 700 total pilots. Most JR Capt isn't even on property yet.

Well, Republic can't staff at all. They gave out a $12,000 signing bonus for the last Q class and $7,000 for the last 170 class. Every month when looking at the seniority list, we are negative pilots and we are still accepting new airplanes. We are past the break even point between planes we have parked (145s) and new ones coming in (175s and Qs). So with still more than 20 planes coming online, we are definitely short staffed. I have had a couple of flights recently cancel for lack of crew and I know we are cancelling quite a few a week for that alone.

Excellent point. And well said.

Well, the regionals are hiring most who apply and soliciting some that haven't. There isn't much incentive to pay money to talk to their recruiters at present.

Here at CommutAir we signed a LOA in March that increased FO starting pay from $23 to $30 an hr. It has definitely helped with getting applicants into the door. The LOA also had a really good commuting clause so I'm sure that is helping as well

Probably if they didn't have a ridiculously intense interview, they'd be able to hire more, and attract more candidates.

Here's the latest information I could find:

Pilot training continues to move along at near full capacity on the CRJ and ERJ programs. A CRJ class of 42 pilots completed ground school on July 24, and an ERJ class of 20 pilots completed ground school on that same day.

Your MEC lied and 79% of the pilots fell for it.

Good Luck.

I think people are starting to realize that, but it's too late. I can't stress enough how important it is to do your own research and not blindly follow others.

Crazy. I haven't been following Republic much, but are they buying their own planes or coming from a major? They talked about parking planes earlier this year, what's The-Hand-That-Feeds-Them going to do when it finds out they can't staff the planes they've been given?

Take this with a grain of salt, but my answer to the original question would be:

PSA
Mesa
Compass
Horizon

According to people on the site, AWAC somehow does it too, but that seems strange.

From talking to the recruiters and such, the DWIs aren't as much of an issue for them it's the criminal inadmissibility to Canada. So if you have that figured out you won't have an issue getting on with a regional.

Another note, one checkride failure isn't a deterrent right now either. I had a checkride failure on my initial 135 SIC ride with just 6 actual hours in the jet (examiner decided to make it a type ride basically). The guys said that's not an issue just be able to explain what happened. 2 or more raises eyebrows. And 3 or more is a no go.