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BE19Pilot 08-10-2014 06:41 PM

CL 1943 was an example of NO CRM...I wonder how the Captain's tennis game is these days?

RV5M 08-11-2014 03:52 AM

Let me google that for you

Std Deviation 08-11-2014 06:15 AM

I managed the CRM/Human Factors program at Flightsafety International for 6+ years. I have volumes of material dating back to the original materials used at United in the early 80's and the original managerial grid (9/9) developed by Mouton and Blake. PM me if interested and I'll give you a "short" resource list with corporate and airline examples and background literature. The cases studies and examples mentioned above are good places to start also. I've also facilitated 100+ CRM workshops, written curriculum, and been a consultant used to solve CRM issues within 91 departments - both pre and post incident/accident. Be happy to ask you some mock CRM questions and gauge understanding if you want.
Start here: http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/m.../AC120-51e.pdf
The AC that describes what a CRM program should focus on (in the eyes of the FAA). Additionally, includes background info and references.

Flightcap 08-11-2014 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Pilotforsale (Post 1702948)
"The Limits of Expertise," is a case study book with many different crashes and incidents. It talks about crm often. Continental flight 1943 would be an example of bad crm.

The Limits of Expertise is an excellent book. We used it as a primary text for our university CRM course. It goes into detail on various good/bad CRM situations. Recommend.

CaptainCarl 08-11-2014 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 1703214)
That made you chuckle? Over 500 people lost their lives in Temerity and another 180 almost lost theirs on ua 232 if it wasn't for the quick actions and split second decision of the crew.Im willing to bet the families of any of the people involved in either of those two incidents won't find it funny .Unbelievable, esp coming from a fellow aviator.

It was his delivery that I found amusing, not the specific events. Lighten up, Francis :rolleyes:

Std Deviation 08-11-2014 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by BE19Pilot (Post 1703260)
CL 1943 was an example of NO CRM...I wonder how the Captain's tennis game is these days?

He became an aircraft instructor at Flightsafety.


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