Yikes, thats alot of total time. If all three majors use this criteria that really hurts the "get in, upgrade quick, get out" crowd. If hired at 1500 TT you're still looking at >8 years at the regional you choose flying ~800 hours a year. Like they said, as time goes on that number is likely to drop, but for now thats quite a commitment to a regional airline.

 

Yeah...that's then way it it's. Time is not only a big factor, also your whole person. They do look at the times, but also other things. Like achievements, education and LOR from United Guys.

That LoR will help to boos your points, but still have to be a pretty much rounded up guy.

 

Yes it is, but keep in mind they have 12,000 applicants on file. Most are current regional FOs and CAs who have at least north of 4K, some with more than double that since not too many people have been hired during the 2007-2102 Age 65 ruling. They did say that they were feeling the effects from the Age 65 rule this year, and they will feel the brunt of it in a few more years.

In my opinion (just my personal one) - that 12,000 application number will drop to about 6-9K in about 24 months. Speaking with Delta and AA last week they both expect massive amounts of hiring coming up soon (Just over 3,000 combined in 18 months) with more on the way. This will reduce their 'competitive minimums' to get lower time guys and girls in.

 

Many moons ago, they hired 500TT pilots. Now you have to do community service.

This industry is a joke. Glad I have few years left.

 

I got hired on with a regional with low time and after 7 years with one furlough only have 4000 hrs TT. Seems I've still got a ways to go!

 

This is pure conjecture on PBSG's part...those numbers were never disclosed by any United people at the FFD open house. The algorithm is proprietary and would never be revealed publicly.

 

That's what they told me in my 1 by 1 interview yesterday. 8k/5k PiC is the average of people hired at United last year.

 

I did a M&G early this year. At that time, I was told the "average civilian RJ pilot" (wink wink) had north of 9k TT, in the 4k TPIC range.

Pre 9/11, the "average" regional guy (wink wink) was around 4kTT with about 1500TPIC as the "competitive" number, as well as usually 2 type ratings.

When comparing TT amongst a civ and mil pilot, it's an apples to bowling balls comparison. ESPECIALLY if it's single seat/tactical jet. And actually, 2K puts a guy that almost middle of the pack for that peer group. Doesn't matter if that 2k included the sortie conversion or not.

That was a looooooong time ago. And the 350 FW/PIC allowed them A LOT of flexibility in who they hired. It also gave them flexibility to help out in casting a wider net, especially as it related to the after effects of a lawsuit. And keep in mind, those "500TT" pilots made up a small number of ANY new hire class. Just like the 2500TT RJ FO does NOW. SURE, you'll hear about them getting hired. But for RIGHT HERE, and RIGHT NOW, it makes up a small quantity in any given OTS/new hire class.

See above on the numbers I was told, vs. what PBSG was told, etc. But probably not too far off the mark. AGAIN, those are an "average" (wink wink).

See above, everybody seems to hear different numbers, but not too far different.

 

Given these TT numbers, I wonder how many perspective pilots would still chase this job. If someone had told me it would take ~12 years to go from flight instructor > RJ pilot > legacy there is no way I would have started this career.

 

What were you sold, I mean told?