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pilot754 01-06-2007 02:24 PM

Cape Air Interview
 
I'll be doing ASA interview JAN 16-17 and looks like I have been granted one with Cape Air as well. For those online with Cape Air please chime in. Any thoughts or ideas to prep are appreciated. Have not decied on a date yet as I wait for my schedule at my current outfit. I am well aware of the site aviationinterviews.com ! The application I filled out stated position applying for filled in as SIC - C402. And on the e-mail inviting me for an interview states Capt? I'll post a portion of it below.

Congratulations! Our selection team has reviewed your completed

Cape Air Pilot Application and wish to make arrangements for an

interview with us at our facilities in Hyannis, Massachusetts.

Interview Dates

We will be conducting interviews on the following dates:
January 16, 17, 18
January 24
January 30, 31
February 01

Travel & Hotel Arrangements

You will need to purchase a round-trip ticket to

(BOS) Boston, Massachusetts. Cape Air will reimburse you

for your air travel expenses on the day you interview.

Cape Air will reserve a positive space ticket to/from

BOS to (HYA) Hyannis on Cape Air along with providing

a hotel room for you the evening prior to the interview.

For travel planning purposes, Cape Air has a daily non-stop

flight from BOS to HYA at 400 pm. Taxis are available for

a very inexpensive ride to the hotel so a rental car is not necessary.

The interview process begins at 9:00 am and is usually completed

by 3:00 pm. (We provide a yummy lunch if you wish to eat.)

Cape Air has a scheduled non-stop from HYA to BOS that

departs at 500 pm and arrives at 535 pm. Return trips back home

should be reserved for 7:00 pm or later.

Interview Acceptance

You will be interviewing for our Cessna 402 Captain position.

The current hiring is for flying/domicile in our Northeast Region

for the Spring/Summer 2007 with the opportunity to fly/domicile

in our Florida or Caribbean Region for the Winter months.


THANKS,
[email protected]

LAfrequentflyer 01-06-2007 05:08 PM

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LAfrequentflyer 01-06-2007 05:10 PM

good luck...

hatetobreakit2u 01-06-2007 06:05 PM

i think SIC at cape air gets 8/hr if that helps

PIC actually does better than first year FO's on jets though

DMEarc 01-07-2007 12:58 PM

Cape sucks.

Jetrecruiter 01-11-2007 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 100159)
Cape sucks.

on top of that you are going to fly an aircraft that is approved only for single pilot. the damn thing only weighs 7210 lbs if it's a C model. Good luck explaining why you have SIC time in your log book in an aircraft that doesn't require an SIC. If you have any decent amount of time go to a regional, I have heard that there are some that will even look at guys with 250 tt. I hope you are not such a low timer. If you are, build experience being a cfi that will carry you along way.

fire 01-13-2007 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Jetrecruiter (Post 101926)
on top of that you are going to fly an aircraft that is approved only for single pilot. the damn thing only weighs 7210 lbs if it's a C model. Good luck explaining why you have SIC time in your log book in an aircraft that doesn't require an SIC. If .


you should read the regs, it would be rather simple explaining the SIC time, I had no problem.

davispm1 01-16-2007 08:18 AM

Where o' where are you getting your information that people will hire you at 250TT that is a joke and does not happen. I have well over 1600 and am having a hard time getting interviews, low multi is my problem. Got to have minimum 100 multi just to be maybe considered and that is not even competative!

Sioux39 01-16-2007 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by davispm1 (Post 103477)
Where o' where are you getting your information that people will hire you at 250TT that is a joke and does not happen. I have well over 1600 and am having a hard time getting interviews, low multi is my problem. Got to have minimum 100 multi just to be maybe considered and that is not even competative!


I think that most pilots who get hired with 250TT are flight school graduates. I know a couple months ago Pinnacle hired a UND grad with about 278TT.

rickair7777 01-16-2007 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by fire (Post 102393)
you should read the regs, it would be rather simple explaining the SIC time, I had no problem.


True for 135/121, but you would probably want to have a copy of those regs at the interview...not everyone is familiar with that provision.

davispm1 01-16-2007 09:39 AM

I used to not think it was a big deal that someone came from a school like with little time but now I think they need to have WAY more hours and experience. I hope I am not the only one that thinks this on the forums, I don't think I am.

Sioux39 01-16-2007 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by davispm1 (Post 103516)
I used to not think it was a big deal that someone came from a school like with little time but now I think they need to have WAY more hours and experience. I hope I am not the only one that thinks this on the forums, I don't think I am.

I agree with you, however, I believe that he is a rare example. From what I understand he had a connection or two at the company. It seems that at least from UND, most airlines place their mins around 500TT and 50 multi for us. While I think that is fair, I'm sure some people will still have a problem with that.

XJPILOT1 01-16-2007 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Sioux39 (Post 103489)
I think that most pilots who get hired with 250TT are flight school graduates. I know a couple months ago Pinnacle hired a UND grad with about 278TT.


...and the Captain said, "sit there and don't touch anything"!!

Pinnacle is grabbing at straws here!! The Chief quit because management wanted
1800 hrs for Captain upgrade!! Please!!! You need experience in weather flying and aircraft control. 278TT is NOT going to give that to you.

Time means experience. If you're not happy instructing you're not going to be happy
at the regionals either. Read some of these posts and you'll see.

hatetobreakit2u 01-16-2007 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by XJPILOT1 (Post 103525)
.. If you're not happy instructing you're not going to be happy
at the regionals either..

i would be happier cleaning toilets than instructing ever again. i did not even renew my CFI because if the time comes that I ever need to instruct again i will quit altogether

davispm1 01-16-2007 12:09 PM

Not trying bust your ball$ but you paid good money for your CFI and it took some effort to get there. I know that instructing can get old but really that is the basis of our learning, that is when we really learned how to fly, plus its a cinch to keep the CFI current. Plus I beleiveve in helping the next guy under me who is coming up as long that there is an appreciation for it. I guess that I am old school!

XJPILOT1 01-16-2007 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by davispm1 (Post 103592)
Not trying bust your ball$ but you paid good money for your CFI and it took some effort to get there. I know that instructing can get old but really that is the basis of our learning, that is when we really learned how to fly, plus its a cinch to keep the CFI current. Plus I beleiveve in helping the next guy under me who is coming up as long that there is an appreciation for it. I guess that I am old school!


Absolutely!!! These threads are loaded with pilots looking for help into the industry. I got in because of someone else. Being a Pilot is bigger then driving a jet for a living. Helping each other get up the ladder is a big part of it.

Oh ya, making $25 an hour sitting in the right seat, going for plane rides and instructing a future Pilot DOES beat out cleaning toilets!!:)

supersix-4 01-16-2007 02:43 PM

I do clean toilets (Lavs) and I do agree. flying a kite is better then stinky lavs anyday...:cool:

XJPILOT1 01-16-2007 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by supersix-4 (Post 103660)
I do clean toilets (Lavs) and I do agree. flying a kite is better then stinky lavs anyday...:cool:


Amen Brother!!! Hey, I'll go on record here and thank you and the blue juice crew. We
can't live without you!!

P.S I wasn't born a pilot, I had many other jobs too!!

captchris 01-16-2007 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by davispm1 (Post 103477)
Where o' where are you getting your information that people will hire you at 250TT that is a joke and does not happen. I have well over 1600 and am having a hard time getting interviews, low multi is my problem. Got to have minimum 100 multi just to be maybe considered and that is not even competative!

Talked to a Pinnacle pilot in the airport the other day. He was brand new to the line---hired with 295 total time. It may be a crappy regional... but the above statement is true!

bassslayer 01-16-2007 04:48 PM

I think a lot of these low timers breeze through training because most of them are typed in the CRJ already, or at least have taken an extensive course for the CRJ, and come to class already knowing how to handle all the automation. Instead of getting their CFI's they bought a CRJ type rating. They don't actually have enough experience under their belts to have gotten used to flying a real airplane in the real world. They can however fly the heck out of a CRJ sim. It's safe bet for companies to hire these guys because they are all but guranteed to get through training. The lack of experience probably doesn't show until after they are out on the line flying into busy airports and through rough weather. By that time, it's the captains problem. I'm not judging anyone, to each his own, just my thoughts.

saab2000 01-16-2007 05:21 PM

If you want to become a good pilot fast and build a lot of multi-engine PIC time, Cape Air is not a bad choice. You grow up fast flying real pax with no F/O.

I see them all the time in PVD and there is a bit of envy when I see them taxi out.

I know nothing of the company, but that is real flying if you ask me.

rubbersidedown 01-16-2007 05:35 PM

I agree with Saab. That is real flying, and real experience. To think back of my thought process and how I flew with 300TT and how I fly now is so much different. It is mind boggling thinking that I could have gotten hired with 300TT with the way I operated then. Its not that I was a crappy pilot, its just that in no way think that I was ready to become a professional pilot at the level that this requires. That is like going from little league to the minor leagues. There is just so much to learn from experience and from your own mistakes that you may learn at the wrong time or maybe even never! Im not saying that it cant be done, but you are missing out on a lot. There is enough other piloting jobs out there that you should take advantage of before you make the jump. Just my 2 cents though.

XJPILOT1 01-16-2007 07:38 PM

I'll agree with rubbersidedown!!

XJPILOT1 01-16-2007 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by bassslayer (Post 103712)
I think a lot of these low timers breeze through training because most of them are typed in the CRJ already, or at least have taken an extensive course for the CRJ, and come to class already knowing how to handle all the automation. Instead of getting their CFI's they bought a CRJ type rating. They don't actually have enough experience under their belts to have gotten used to flying a real airplane in the real world. They can however fly the heck out of a CRJ sim. It's safe bet for companies to hire these guys because they are all but guranteed to get through training. The lack of experience probably doesn't show until after they are out on the line flying into busy airports and through rough weather. By that time, it's the captains problem. I'm not judging anyone, to each his own, just my thoughts.


You are correct!!

davispm1 01-17-2007 06:46 AM

I bet the guy that got on with Pinnacle is one hell of a Play Station player!!! I garantee you that I could jack him up in a Cessna 172 before we even call ground to taxi (make him confused) as to what the next step is!!! What a joke.

Wapilot2010 11-14-2010 09:49 PM

does anyone know if Cape Air is hiring FO's at the moment?

NightIP 11-15-2010 06:33 PM

If it helps, I was there for two years. I can say without any exaggeration whatsoever that the time I spent in the left seat of the 402 in the Northeast helped me grow as a professional pilot more than any other point in my career so far.

EDIT: D'oh, didn't realize the remainder of this thread was from 2007 and someone rose it from the dead. Sorry!

2bennySODC6 12-27-2011 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Wapilot2010 (Post 901282)
does anyone know if Cape Air is hiring FO's at the moment?

Go to the company website. It looks like they are only hiring C-402 captains. :)

block30 12-27-2011 07:51 PM

What the heck are they going replace the 402s with when they eventually wear out? I suppose at this point it is all conjecture...

FlyJSH 12-28-2011 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by 2bennySODC6 (Post 1108389)
Go to the company website. It looks like they are only hiring C-402 captains. :)

Just out of curiosity, what does a typical 402 CA earn. Also, how senior are the FL bases?

2nd best pilot 12-28-2011 05:41 AM

Put my app in about a week ago.. Anybody want to push my resume? ;)

4th and goal for ATP mins

9kBud 12-28-2011 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1108401)
What the heck are they going replace the 402s with when they eventually wear out? I suppose at this point it is all conjecture...

AOPA Online: Tecnam breaks the mold, offers regional twin, four-seater That's the plan anyway.


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1108448)
Just out of curiosity, what does a typical 402 CA earn. Also, how senior are the FL bases?

lower end of the payscale - low to mid 30's with a wide variation and multiple opportunities to pick up summer flying well above min. We do have a lot of 402 captains pulling in more then the ATR captains. As far as FL goes, I think our most junior year round pilot has a 1994 DOH. Wintertime flying does offer more opportunities for junior pilots to some extent.

sandrich 12-28-2011 08:36 AM

Just out of curiosity, is the 402's right seat even a log-able seat? I'm assuming it's a single pilot aircraft so going there as an FO would be pointless, if anything just a place holder...that is unless you are headed for the ATR...

BelowMins 12-28-2011 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by FlyJSH (Post 1108448)
Just out of curiosity, what does a typical 402 CA earn. Also, how senior are the FL bases?

$27,300-$42,900. The low end is working 35 hours a week, which is the minimum guarantee, the high end is working 50 hours a week. All based on the Northeast bases. The Caribbean has overrides but it goes back and forth from junior to senior. Florida is the most senior base in the system. The RSW base has two top ten guys on the seniority list. Key West is a seasonal base that goes at least five years into the seniority list as far as I remember.

There is a new contract in the works and these numbers hopefully will go up.

Cape Air has some things to work out with work rules which I'm sure have been addressed in the new contract. It's a great place to work and I'd recommend it to anyone who actually wants to fly a plane instead of rotting away in the right seat of a regional jet monitoring systems.

Source:
Former 9K, current RJ fo

9kBud 12-28-2011 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by BelowMins (Post 1108706)
Key West is a seasonal base that goes at least five years into the seniority list as far as I remember.

Used to be. Current junior pilot is a 08/11 hire.

Luv2Rotate 12-28-2011 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by BelowMins (Post 1108706)
$27,300-$42,900. The low end is working 35 hours a week, which is the minimum guarantee, the high end is working 50 hours a week. All based on the Northeast bases. The Caribbean has overrides but it goes back and forth from junior to senior. Florida is the most senior base in the system. The RSW base has two top ten guys on the seniority list. Key West is a seasonal base that goes at least five years into the seniority list as far as I remember.

There is a new contract in the works and these numbers hopefully will go up.

Cape Air has some things to work out with work rules which I'm sure have been addressed in the new contrFact. It's a great place to work and I'd recommend it to anyone who actually wants to fly a plane instead of rotting away in the right seat of a regional jet monitoring systems.

Source:
Former 9K, current RJ fo

PIC
in a light twin ain't going to get you to a major. I'm sure this is why you're a current RJ FO.

slough 12-28-2011 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by 9kBud (Post 1108732)
Used to be. Current junior pilot is a 08/11 hire.


Can the 08/11 hire hold key west year round?

9kBud 12-28-2011 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by slough (Post 1108813)
Can the 08/11 hire hold key west year round?

In a word, no.

Speedbird172 12-28-2011 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by sandrich (Post 1108590)
Just out of curiosity, is the 402's right seat even a log-able seat? I'm assuming it's a single pilot aircraft so going there as an FO would be pointless, if anything just a place holder...that is unless you are headed for the ATR...

Yes SIC can be logged; long story short FOs are required, however we are able to substitute them with the autopilot which is why it mostly is single pilot flying here. Great way to build time to ATP mins and get some solid experience.

BelowMins 12-29-2011 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1108757)
PIC
in a light twin ain't going to get you to a major. I'm sure this is why you're a current RJ FO.

Depends what you think will happen with the so called "shortage" that is approaching. If you think it's true then PIC in a 402 might be enough to get you to a major. If you believe that the shortage is just being hyped by flight schools to attract new students in a decade of steady decline then PIC in a jet might not get you to a major either as that job might not be there due to the outsourcing that jet is providing.


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