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Blackwing 09-25-2014 09:38 PM
Good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from poor judgment--that is, if you don't die in the process.

Also: no surgical resident ever died from making a mistake while operating on someone else.

CaptainNameless 09-25-2014 10:35 PM
And isn't there now a minimum 121 experience required before upgrade to captain? Therefore the new FO (even at 1500 hours) is not equal to the new 121 PIC experience requirement. The lowest time pt121 captain will be a military 750 hr ATP new hire FO who then does 1000 at the 121 level. So 1750 for military route, 2500 for civilian? I don't know, I haven't actually read the book.

Rnav 09-25-2014 11:04 PM
Because Joe-public thinks that you (pilot) needs to have more experience before flying them around. And not a whisper about raising your pay. So guess who pays for the 1500 hr rule? The answer lies in the mirror in your house. Welcome to aviation :)

So suck it up and enjoy building those hours... while some chump from another country you trained as a CFI goes and flies some heavy metal with their wet ticket you helped them get. :rolleyes:

701EV 09-26-2014 03:32 AM
Originally Posted by CaptUnderhill (Post 1734728)
If it's going to raise regional pilot pay then I am all for it, but if its to increase safety then I'm confused. I don't understand why the FO needs to have the same qualifications as the captain. A doctor in his residency can perform surgery with a licensed doctor supervising, once they are out of residency and pass the board exam they are a licensed doctor and make good money. It just seems that this pilot profession requires additional certification without having anything happen to pay. Please clarify if I misunderstood something.
A Physician out of his residency holds an ATP.

742Dash 09-26-2014 04:01 AM
Originally Posted by CaptUnderhill (Post 1734728)
If it's going to raise regional pilot pay then I am all for it, but if its to increase safety then I'm confused. I don't understand why the FO needs to have the same qualifications as the captain. A doctor in his residency can perform surgery with a licensed doctor supervising, once they are out of residency and pass the board exam they are a licensed doctor and make good money. It just seems that this pilot profession requires additional certification without having anything happen to pay. Please clarify if I misunderstood something.
Comparing this career to that of a Physician is both common and deeply flawed. That said, IMO the argument that you are really making is that Captain qualifications should be raised. And they should be, since a 1500 hour ATP is in no position to be in command in a 121 operation.

However the insurance companies have taken care of that. So while it appears that the two seats have the same qualifications, there is in reality a higher bar on the left seat.

JohnnyDingus 09-26-2014 05:23 AM
Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1734744)
I smell ATP flight school......
What's wrong with learning how to be a master of the skies in 90 days? That's ample time to gain all the experience you need. You get to see and experience weather year round.... Wait wait no you don't.......

Is offline 09-26-2014 05:39 AM
Remember the days when it took 2500 TT and 500 multi to get an interview with a regional? I am so tired of hearing people complain about 1500 hours.

JamesNoBrakes 09-26-2014 05:52 AM
Originally Posted by CaptUnderhill (Post 1734728)
If it's going to raise regional pilot pay then I am all for it, but if its to increase safety then I'm confused. I don't understand why the FO needs to have the same qualifications as the captain. A doctor in his residency can perform surgery with a licensed doctor supervising, once they are out of residency and pass the board exam they are a licensed doctor and make good money. It just seems that this pilot profession requires additional certification without having anything happen to pay. Please clarify if I misunderstood something.
If that supervising doctor DIES during surgery, they can probably find a qualified doctor to take his place in a matter of minutes in a pinch. If your captain dies in the cockpit, it's just you, hence reason for dual PIC type ratings, etc.

FlyingKat 09-26-2014 05:53 AM
Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 1734852)
Remember the days when it took 2500 TT and 500 multi to get an interview with a regional? I am so tired of hearing people complain about 1500 hours.

Yep.......

742Dash 09-26-2014 05:57 AM
Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 1734852)
Remember the days when it took 2500 TT and 500 multi to get an interview with a regional? I am so tired of hearing people complain about 1500 hours.
Yep. And along those lines, 50 passengers would not have died on flight 3407 if the Captain had spent a summer towing banners or flight instructing.

Basic airmanship does not come out of a course catalog.


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