I've flown with him. I would be very surprised if the allegations are true. Due to some of the issues with his impending divorce, I would not be surprised to find that this was a set up by his wife. Regardless, let the legal system work. Leave the convictions for them.

Can't be, he is not doochee enough.....

I have to chime in here as well. I know Tom. He's a very nice, outgoing guy. I have flown with him a few times, and nothing in his character says child molester in my experience. He also confided in me what Tony said about the divorce. We all need to let the legal system do it's intended purpose, and treat him as innocent until proven guilty.

In your "experience" which character traits do child molestors exhibit? Not every child molester has a NAMBLA or "Kiddie Porn Rocks" bumper sticker, they are in every segment of society and social strata.

And just like that you have popped up on the NSA's radar. You better hunker down for a day or two man...get some provisions and stuff.

The black helicopters just flew by with the rotor cloaking engaged, I am just glad I didn't post " ISIL ROCKS" instead.......DOH!

Oooooohh!!! You are in for a world of hurt now!!

An ISIL lover with pedophilia bumper stickers...dayum!


I'm outta here!

:)

Sorry man, you are already under the NSA microscope, prepare for a M-4 colonoscopy. Collateral damage....

As long as they have the decency to give me a reach around....

If you look like your Avatar, my bet is face to face......

Agree 100%... Regardless of being convicted or not, if the wife made this up, she's already screwed his life up probably forever. It's a shame the crap people do to each other. I'm currently on a trip with a guy who used to fly with him, and he told me the same thing... He just can't see this guy doing it, so let's wait to pass judgment as I'm sure we'd all hope for if we were ever put in a situation like this.

Wow, what a terrible situation for all involved. Hopefully the truth comes out and justice is served.

Same thing here. Comes across as normal guy, upset about the divorce thing. I doubt the charges, but I've been wrongs few times before. I'll go with innocent until proven with this one.

We all laugh at how incompetent the media is when it comes to aviation. What makes this situation any different?

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Its amazing the kind of crazy allegations that women will unleash to get the upper hand in a divorce and punish the guy. Hopefully this is not true and he should get his day in court. If this is a case where it was trumped up by the wife in a divorce, I hope the Judge crushes her. Probably won't happen because women get the upper hand in these cases anyway. Being falsely accused of something like this is just as bad as committing the act, and both should be equally prosecuted.

Hope its not true, but if it is he should go to jail for a long time.

This. And if she's behind the whole thing, she should go to jail for a very long time.

Not too long ago…

Falsely accused.

Too bad all of the popular crime shows portray a black-and-white scenario where dedicated and hard-working cops and prosecutors fight the odds and bring down evil perpetrators. Not many cover prosecutorial misconduct, witness coaching, jailhouse informants, evidence tampering -- or vindictive, spurned women spinning lies.

The Economist article I linked in the previous page paints a pretty disheartening picture of what happens when one is accused of a serious crime and falls into the gears of the criminal-industrial complex in the US.

Even worse, the media and American people are all too eager to pick up their pitch forks and join the witch hunt. You know, because people, especially children, NEVER tell lies. /sarcasm

That's good that you're going with that. On this one. :rolleyes:

Its funny how we all brag about 'Murica and our system of justice, Bill of Rights and everything else, wave flags, put our hands on our hearts and sing songs. Then turn right around and collectively wish for mob rule and public executions, even torture, the elimination of due process and the assumption of guilt based off of news stories, all while trying to "get out of" jury duty.

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance, and we haven't been paying the bill.

I guess they never read or saw Arthur Miller's "The Crucible."

Children do not have to lie. Unfortunately they are easily manipulated and convinced things happened which actually did not. The memory becomes real to them and they will spend the rest of their lives convinced it actually happened, even passing polygraphs.

We simply have to rely on the integrity of the justice system and sell everything we own to afford the level of defense it takes to fight false accusations-with absolutely no hope of ever getting the money back if the charges are dropped or there is an aquittal.

The system sucks but it is the best in the world. But keep in mind this is the same system which does stop many sick freaks from hurting kids.

I will say that's usually my default position. I save lynch mob activities for guys like Dahmer, some guy in Fl who buried a girl alive in a trash bag, some guy in Ut who helped organize a search for a girl who was in a cooler in his garage and their ilk...

I'll wait for proof with Tom, the guy from the gun show and the vast majority of others who have been accused.

So are all of these accusations coming from daughters or other family members or from different children who have no family ties/relationships with the defendant?

Everyone keeps talking about the divorce proceedings and are ready to hang the ex/wife for what she 'might have done', but seeing as much of the inner workings of these types of cases as I do - - - some large conspiracy themes containing outside allegations are pretty far reaching IMO.

The allegations are from his children.

That is a tough situation to be sure.
Hopefully forensic interviewing will uncover any coaching.

I was a new-hire with Zerb at ASA in 2000. He is a good guy. This is sad any way you slice it, innocent or guilty. If it's the former, then his ex-wife needs some serious help and should pay dearly for throwing Tom's life and career down the crapper. If it's the latter, then I hope he goes away for a long time and gets some help.

I remember him from Mesa in the late 90s. I'm sure there is much more to the story than what was in a press release.

I was at Mesa as well in the late 90's but I don't remember this guy.

Guilty until proven innocent, seems to be the trend. That being said, if it was one of my daughters, this case would never make it to trial.


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So true. Each of us is one false accusation away from having our reputations forever destroyed.

Vigilante "justice." I'm sure your daughter hasn't ever lied or never will lie without regard for consequences.

If he's proven innocent I doubt we'll get 8 more pages on this thread...

Maybe he can call Rand Spear for legal advice.

My daughters lie all the time, but being that they are 7 and 3 years old respectively, he would disappear without a trace... If they lied then, hey man, sorry about your luck.


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Yup. Murder an innocent man because they lied about being touched so they wouldn't get in trouble.

Ummmm, what?! :confused:

That is some pretty twisted logic. :eek:

Eerily similar.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/20/ny...stab.html?_r=0

Mod note:

As sensitive a subject as this is on all points - we aren't going to start talking about knocking anyone off. That aspect of the thread should end here. Thank you.

Lol. That moral clause of your ATP certificate must be eating at you like the tell tale heart. Well done, you are as sick as a (real) child molester.

Hope the authorities get this one right.

Wow. Just wow.