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saturn 11-21-2014 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Slick111 (Post 1768253)
I may be way wrong on this, but I see this as a harbinger of good things to come for Envoy. Why? Here's why.

As AAG assigns 175s to Compass and Republic, and as they shed 145s to TSA, Piedmont, and another regional to be named later, (SKW??),.......they're running out of regionals to fly the remaining 175s.

TSA will barely be able to staff the 145s they're getting, so there's no way they'll be in the running for 175s. And they won't be able to shift guys over from Compass. Air Willy just announced their agreement to take-on a bunch of 200s for Delta, so they're not gonna be in any position to consider the remaining 175s. SkyWest is in a similar boat and PSA obviously has their hands full getting ready for 20(+/-) more 900s and 49 more 700s. Who's left? Lakes? Silver? Commutair?

AAG just strengthened Envoy's hand! They're quickly running out of places to put the rest of the 175s,......plus all of the options. Parker's hand is about played-out.

Who moved my Cheese?

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Moved-My-C.../dp/0399144463

AnotherEagleGuy 11-21-2014 02:05 PM

It only has 3.5 stars, most probably due to the stupid title.

saturn 11-21-2014 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by AnotherEagleGuy (Post 1768299)
It only has 3.5 stars, most probably due to the stupid title.

Its a corny parable, has a dumb title, but is spot on. Its been a best-seller for ages for a reason. It took me an hour to read, free all over the internet. Legit book for envoy/endeavor/any regional pilot.

TrakTrak 11-21-2014 02:38 PM

I'm glad I was able to get out. Good luck to all...

basesjuiced 11-21-2014 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Slick111 (Post 1768253)
I may be way wrong on this, but I see this as a harbinger of good things to come for Envoy. Why? Here's why.

As AAG assigns 175s to Compass and Republic, and as they shed 145s to TSA, Piedmont, and another regional to be named later, (SKW??),.......they're running out of regionals to fly the remaining 175s.

TSA will barely be able to staff the 145s they're getting, so there's no way they'll be in the running for 175s. And they won't be able to shift guys over from Compass. Air Willy just announced their agreement to take-on a bunch of 200s for Delta, so they're not gonna be in any position to consider the remaining 175s. SkyWest is in a similar boat and PSA obviously has their hands full getting ready for 20(+/-) more 900s and 49 more 700s. Who's left? Lakes? Silver? Commutair?

AAG just strengthened Envoy's hand! They're quickly running out of places to put the rest of the 175s,......plus all of the options. Parker's hand is about played-out.


Losing all CRJs. Just lost about half of ERJs? If not more? Compass and RAH taking deliveries of 170s and other regionals bidding on more 170s to fly for Eagle . But this is somehow good for you guys? Am I missing something here

Bzzt 11-21-2014 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by basesjuiced (Post 1768319)
Losing all CRJs. Just lost about half of ERJs? If not more? Compass and RAH taking deliveries of 170s and other regionals bidding on more 170s to fly for Eagle . But this is somehow good for you guys? Am I missing something here

Logic is sorely lacking with most Envoy posters here.

Expat87 11-21-2014 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by basesjuiced (Post 1768319)
Losing all CRJs. Just lost about half of ERJs? If not more? Compass and RAH taking deliveries of 170s and other regionals bidding on more 170s to fly for Eagle . But this is somehow good for you guys? Am I missing something here

I envy their indestructible sense of optimism.

Mesabah 11-21-2014 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by TheBills (Post 1768177)
There is no way.

Whatever doesn't get staffed goes to the desert or another regional. This is the new 50 seater business model. Most of the people moving around are only resetting their longevity, although some might get lucky. The problem is there are no new pilots coming into the market, it's all just a reshuffling of the current deck.

buddies8 11-21-2014 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by basesjuiced (Post 1768319)
Losing all CRJs. Just lost about half of ERJs? If not more? Compass and RAH taking deliveries of 170s and other regionals bidding on more 170s to fly for Eagle . But this is somehow good for you guys? Am I missing something here

more time off.

Pilottim79 11-21-2014 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1768174)
Wow. Will TSA be able to staff them and the new united xjt 145's is the question

Silver, Commute Air, Great Lakes, Cape Air, Furloughed pilots and CQFOs.

If my crash pad can be filled with new hire Silver and Mesa guys, well TSA can get pilots no problem.


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