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Old 12-06-2014 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
What's the point? So they're paid under what should be an appropriate professional wage for their education, skill, training and experience. The pilot glut drives down wages everywhere.
So you hate capitalism because that is exactly the point. A surplus in labor drives down wages. If you think aviation is the only sector to be working for less than their perceived worked, you are ignorant. Social work now essentially requires a master's degree. What is their earning potential over 10 years? What marketing graduates? Even doctors complain.

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So what is your solution?
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Old 12-06-2014 | 07:51 AM
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I still do not get what you are after. Yes, capitalism and its markets determine the going wages for pilots, and pilots at the low end have terrible wages right now compared to other fields with similar education, certification, training, skill, responsibility and so on because the markets put them there. I guess you are in agreement about that(?). But then you make this sort of hot-sounding demand that I present my solution. I have no solution, just more market forces doing the same thing.

Pilot wages will come up whenever there is a genuine pilot shortage. There is no deep, genuine pilot shortage now so they will not come up very much, assuming they come up any. There does seem to be a mild change in trends lately with small base pay raises for some entry-level airline pilots at a few firms like Great Lakes.

That's it, that's the solution. My purpose is to understand it, and that's all. I am for clarity and understanding of the issues, and no other motive. I would love to see pilots get the pay they deserve, but it's not within my power to do very much about it.
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Old 12-06-2014 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by satpak77
You are in the minority if you don't think pilots deserve better pay.

If regional airlines paid new hire 1st year FO's 40K a year, and Captains 100K at Year-1 left seat Captain, you would have more students in flight school.

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You are right. Anyone who is using the regionals to get to the legacies does not really believe pilots deserve better pay, they just want to get "through" the regionals as fast as they can.
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Old 12-06-2014 | 08:44 AM
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Thats fine for those who believe in the pilot shortage. I, and many others, to include the largest pilot union in the world, think otherwise.

Carry on and Merry Christmas
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