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palgia841 01-29-2007 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by duvie (Post 109904)
Lets not kid ourselves, Comparing the training and career progression of a doctor and a pilot is ludicrous. Do you see any 90 day accelerated training programs for doctors? :rolleyes:

The fact of the matter is that plenty of guys go through the ATP programs and make just as good a pilot as myself who took 3 years to get my first pax flying gig.

I would challenge anybody out there to find a doctor that finished school in less than a year. (Doogie Howser doesn't count) ;)

Well then lets eliminate the 90-day pilot-factories, who have their own 141 examining authority and give a ticket to any moron with a heartbeat and a checkbook!

And I don't care what ANYBODY says. 90 days to go from 0 to CFI/I/MEI is LUDICROUS.

LAfrequentflyer 01-30-2007 03:52 AM


Originally Posted by palgia841 (Post 109970)
Well then lets eliminate the 90-day pilot-factories, who have their own 141 examining authority and give a ticket to any moron with a heartbeat and a checkbook!

And I don't care what ANYBODY says. 90 days to go from 0 to CFI/I/MEI is LUDICROUS.

They don't give tickets to any moron with money and a heartbeat. They give it any moron that can fly to established FAA standards.

90 days from 0 hours to CFI/I/MEI is acceptable. Its the next 1000+ hours we should be concerned about.

I'm in favor of requiring 135 IFR mins for all applicants for 121 F/O jobs. Thats not set in stone. I'm willing to entertain higher flight hour requirements - maybe even ATP hours and rating to be a 121 pilot. Why not? Airline Transport Pilot - makes sense to me the novice looking in...

Unfortunately, there has to be a movement at the pilot level to make changes to preserve the profession you have all decided on.

-LAFF

HotMamaPilot 01-30-2007 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by palgia841 (Post 109970)
Well then lets eliminate the 90-day pilot-factories, who have their own 141 examining authority and give a ticket to any moron with a heartbeat and a checkbook!

And I don't care what ANYBODY says. 90 days to go from 0 to CFI/I/MEI is LUDICROUS.

Amen to that!! I've been saying for years that they "pass" certain peops who otherwise wouldn't make it at a real school.[ LAFF please insert your post about how the rides are given by FAA inspectors :rolleyes: ]

HotMamaPilot 01-30-2007 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer (Post 110088)
They don't give tickets to any moron with money and a heartbeat. They give it any moron that can fly to established FAA standards.
90 days from 0 hours to CFI/I/MEI is acceptable. Its the next 1000+ hours we should be concerned about.

I'm in favor of requiring 135 IFR mins for all applicants for 121 F/O jobs. Thats not set in stone. I'm willing to entertain higher flight hour requirements - maybe even ATP hours and rating to be a 121 pilot. Why not? Airline Transport Pilot - makes sense to me the novice looking in...

Unfortunately, there has to be a movement at the pilot level to make changes to preserve the profession you have all decided on.

-LAFF

Do you work for ATP? It sounds an awful lot as if you are getting commision checks from them. Sir, try to think a little outside the box. NOT everything happens as it should in this world. Are you a closet idealist?

LAfrequentflyer 01-30-2007 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 110111)
Amen to that!! I've been saying for years that they "pass" certain peops who otherwise wouldn't make it at a real school.[ LAFF please insert your post about how the rides are given by FAA inspectors :rolleyes: ]

What exactly is a real school?



-LAFF

LAfrequentflyer 01-30-2007 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot (Post 110113)
Do you work for ATP? It sounds an awful lot as if you are getting commision checks from them. Sir, try to think a little outside the box. NOT everything happens as it should in this world. Are you a closet idealist?

Re-read my post. You seem to have an problem reading for comprehension. I never mentioned a school by name or left subtle hints/clues directing your attention to any specific school.

Whay say you about 135 IFR mins or more for entry level 121 jobs?

-LAFF

JoeyMeatballs 01-30-2007 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer (Post 110088)
They don't give tickets to any moron with money and a heartbeat. They give it any moron that can fly to established FAA standards.

90 days from 0 hours to CFI/I/MEI is acceptable. Its the next 1000+ hours we should be concerned about.

I'm in favor of requiring 135 IFR mins for all applicants for 121 F/O jobs. Thats not set in stone. I'm willing to entertain higher flight hour requirements - maybe even ATP hours and rating to be a 121 pilot. Why not? Airline Transport Pilot - makes sense to me the novice looking in...

Unfortunately, there has to be a movement at the pilot level to make changes to preserve the profession you have all decided on.

-LAFF

Zero to Hero is all about money, if you pay the fee for their course, when you turn the wrong way on a procedure turn, they look the other way or simply, "try it agian" that what "examining authority" is all about and ATP has their Fellas pretty hooked up so they don't bust people much at all, if ever, however I wouldnt say that all pilots that come out of ATP are poor, I know quite a few that are pretty sharp guys/gals


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