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Old 12-15-2014 | 07:09 AM
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What rules did he break??
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Old 12-15-2014 | 07:13 AM
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aa73,

Did you write the book? Are you the author? It sure seems like it. Nice try.
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Old 12-15-2014 | 07:55 AM
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No I did not. I'm an AA 737 F/O...he's a computer software engineer.

I just happened to think the book was spot on, and shines a spotlight on the very thing that we're ashamed to admit: that we sell ourselves out to shameful pay and working conditions, and empower the regional airlines, in order to advance in aviation. I'm no exception. Neither are most of you. He was. And that takes a ton of guts, even more so to write an honest book about it.

If most of you would put your inflated pride and egos aside and stop defending a huge gaping injustice in the airline industry, you'd come to realize his book is a welcome breath of fresh air designed to open as many eyes as possible in the fight for better pay and working conditions in the airline industry.
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Old 12-15-2014 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NewPil0t
The Amazon reviews weren't too kind to him.

Looks like someone who tried hard to get into this industry, even breaking some rules along the way, but quit once he got to the little leagues.

This is a 30+ year career, and you have to earn your stripes, literally!

For perspective: Doctors come out of 8 years of College/MedicalSchool to spend 5 years in Internship/Residence making $45-60/year working 80 hour weeks before anyone will take them seriously and they earn the next step in pay. (their student loans are much worse than yours!)

Damn. The RAA loves kids like you....that you Roger Cohen?


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Old 12-15-2014 | 10:31 AM
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Free download link?
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Old 12-15-2014 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JustAMushroom
What happens in Hispanic cultures that is unique to that culture and is wrong?
Guess you are not familiar with Island Time.
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Some of the locals trying to rip you off because you are not a Latino or speak Spanish fluently.
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Old 12-15-2014 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SenecaII
Damn. The RAA loves kids like you....that you Roger Cohen?


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You better be old enough to be retiring if you're calling me a kid.
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Old 12-15-2014 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NewPil0t
The Amazon reviews weren't too kind to him.

Looks like someone who tried hard to get into this industry, even breaking some rules along the way, but quit once he got to the little leagues.

This is a 30+ year career, and you have to earn your stripes, literally!

For perspective: Doctors come out of 8 years of College/MedicalSchool to spend 5 years in Internship/Residence making $45-60/year working 80 hour weeks before anyone will take them seriously and they earn the next step in pay. (their student loans are much worse than yours!)
Doctors only do the residency once and yet pilots have to do it every time they change their employers and start at bottom again. Imagine telling a Cardiovascular surgeon that his hospital is closing and he needs to start over at 20k per year as nurse.
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Old 12-15-2014 | 02:22 PM
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Can we stop with the Doctor comparisons? Half of the people getting hired at regionals went to some "90 day super pilot" program with no real college. Followed by somehow managing to not kill themselves and only get violated a handful of times while pencil whipping their logbook until it totaled 1500 hours.
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Old 12-15-2014 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rascal
Doctors only do the residency once and yet pilots have to do it every time they change their employers and start at bottom again. Imagine telling a Cardiovascular surgeon that his hospital is closing and he needs to start over at 20k per year as nurse.
I didn't create the seniority system everybody seems to love.

It brings all sorts of inefficiencies to the table such as the most junior guys flying the hardest schedules, with the most junior F/O sitting next to them instead of a more experienced F/O. see Colgan crash..

I would allow for station/equipment/seat bidding by seniority, but then assign flights more like the ProSports Drafts.. And make sure the CA-F/O pairings were in reverse order.

I'm all for airlines being able to direct hire qualified pilots direct to a position, and let people decide whether they want to participate in organized labor, but people get very aggressive over that.
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