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EvilMonkey 01-19-2015 01:49 AM

Don't come here. Being a line holder doesn't matter, everyone is a reserve. I haven't done a four day trip that didn't get horribly reassigned in months. Call in fatigued and it counts as a sick call if the Company determines it wasn't their fault. They don't give a rats *** about safety. Had to refuse an aircraft for ferry a few days before Christmas because maintenance control didn't know the systems of the aircraft well enough to realize it wasn't safe to fly. Go somewhere else. Please.

billyho 01-19-2015 02:12 AM


Originally Posted by EvilMonkey (Post 1807048)
Don't come here. Being a line holder doesn't matter, everyone is a reserve. I haven't done a four day trip that didn't get horribly reassigned in months. Call in fatigued and it counts as a sick call if the Company determines it wasn't their fault. They don't give a rats *** about safety. Had to refuse an aircraft for ferry a few days before Christmas because maintenance control didn't know the systems of the aircraft well enough to realize it wasn't safe to fly. Go somewhere else. Please.


Ouch!!! Maybe you guys need to start the whistle blowing. That's crazy!!

billyho 01-19-2015 02:14 AM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1807026)
Don't be jelly because you failed out of RAH.

FaceBiter don't be a Pillowbiter! It's awful there!

IlliniPilot99 01-19-2015 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1806922)
I think it's all how you look at it....if your plan is to get in and get out asap, it doesn't matter who you go with....

when factoring upgrade for said 'getting out'....this is the dumbest thing said about anything...ever...

billyho 01-19-2015 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by IlliniPilot99 (Post 1807061)
when factoring upgrade for said 'getting out'....this is the dumbest thing said about anything...ever...


Yes I was wondering what the hell he was talking about. If you wanna get in and out then you better find the lowest upgrade time. Durrrrr

Emb170man 01-19-2015 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1807066)
Quote:





Originally Posted by IlliniPilot99


when factoring upgrade for said 'getting out'....this is the dumbest thing said about anything...ever...





Yes I was wondering what the hell he was talking about. If you wanna get in and out then you better find the lowest upgrade time. Durrrrr


The lowest upgrade time can change on a dime. When I went to RAH it was a 14 month upgrade...7 years later I finally upgraded.....glad to have escaped that place now, wishing the same for everyone else there. RAH has a great pilot group, but management makes that place unbearable.

prior121 01-19-2015 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1807026)
Quote:





Originally Posted by prior121


I'm at Mesa, I was at RAH.

Let's just say RAH makes Mesa feel like mainline.




Don't be jelly because you failed out of RAH.

That doesn't even make sense... I was there a year and a half, already thru my first AQP and 6 months or so before my next training event. I bailed for greener pastures, and hopefully a quick upgrade. (which happened)

Rahlifer 01-19-2015 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by gambler (Post 1806800)
First post here. Hi everyone!

I'm approaching ATP minimums, and thinking about applying with RAH. I'll be living in Indianapolis and it seems like that's going to be my best bet. Moving will not be a possibility for quite a while, so the only other option would be to commute.

I'm just looking for some opinions from you guys. Now, I've read all of the stories about how RAH has a terrible contract, long upgrades, etc. Is it really that bad? Would it be more beneficial for me to try to get on with someone else and deal with a commute to ORD or somewhere else? From everything I've heard, it seems like it'd probably be better to just deal with the negatives there and be able to live in base than have to commute. Anything else I should consider?

If you live in base and can drive to work, the place is somewhat more bearable. I don't have a clue what seniority/movement in Indy looks like since I'm from California and try to avoid the place like my sanity depends on it. Indy is the one and only outstation that is ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED not to close with minimal notice a month after you sign a lease on an apartment. Just to reiterate, being able to drive to work will have an enormous impact on your quality of life. A one leg commute to reserve is terrible, a two leg commute will make your life unbearable. You may as well premptively dump any wife or girlfriend you may have because you'll only see them a few times every month.

I've been a commuter for my entire sentence here at BB's funhouse because I absolutely refuse to move anywhere for this company. Many of us have easily have 10 or more domiciles under our belts due to the constant opening and closing of domiciles. Yet our boss continually berates commuters because "it's a lifestyle choice". I'm going to just stop before I go into a multi-page tirade.

tothebigblue 01-19-2015 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by Rahlifer (Post 1807116)
If you live in base and can drive to work, the place is somewhat more bearable. I don't have a clue what seniority/movement in Indy looks like since I'm from California and try to avoid the place like my sanity depends on it. Indy is the one and only outstation that is ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED not to close with minimal notice a month after you sign a lease on an apartment. Just to reiterate, being able to drive to work will have an enormous impact on your quality of life. A one leg commute to reserve is terrible, a two leg commute will make your life unbearable. You may as well premptively dump any wife or girlfriend you may have because you'll only see them a few times every month.

I've been a commuter for my entire sentence here at BB's funhouse because I absolutely refuse to move anywhere for this company. Many of us have easily have 10 or more domiciles under our belts due to the constant opening and closing of domiciles. Yet our boss continually berates commuters because "it's a lifestyle choice". I'm going to just stop before I go into a multi-page tirade.

then why the e'f do you guys stay its like being able to untie your self from the whipping block and walk away but you rather stay and hope the beatings lessen. There are much better places than RAH.

Rahlifer 01-19-2015 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by tothebigblue (Post 1807118)
then why the e'f do you guys stay its like being able to untie your self from the whipping block and walk away but you rather stay and hope the beatings lessen. There are much better places than RAH.

You kinda get to a point where you seriously just don't giva a damn anymore and just go through the motions to just get each trip over with as expeditiously as possible. I personally have been working to just get out of aviation all together. Just not there yet. In the meantime, I still have to pay the mortgage and feed the kids. It's not a glamorous life, but I bite the bullet and drag myself off to work each day. Now please don't even think of accuse me of being willing to scab if Hell should freeze over and we walk. There are simply some things this wretched old soul will never do.


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