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flyingreasemnky 01-19-2015 10:38 AM

All I have to add to this thread as a former RAH FO that lived in base at a hub, RAH is long term pain without any real gain. Your goal should be short term pain for long term gain. Give up about 4-5 years commutting to a regional with a decent upgrade and contract (qol) for a quicker path to a real job (legacy).

You may get to live in base at RAH but after five years of making less than 40k, you are going to wish you had gone to TSA, PSA or anywhere better. The amount of income lost over your career from living in base at RAH vs a quick movement regional is astronomical.

sqwkvfr 01-19-2015 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1807221)
I thought the goal was to park the 145s so they could staff the 175 flying, not the other way around. Thats why they didnt renew the "American Connection" 140 flying in ORD so they could staff the 175 "American Eagle" flying in ORD.

It was, but rumor has it that RAH wanted to park the rest of the 145s according to an earlier schedule since they are so hard up for pilots, but Delta apparently refused to amend their agreement, so the company decided to let this problem get so bad that we're currently in a situation where the 145 schedules are being modified so late in the process that the pilots won't know their February schedules until a day or two before the month begins.

The above is typical of RAH's manner of doing business. They have absolutely no regard for crew members.

LAXSAAB 01-19-2015 01:24 PM

Republic has one of the worst contracts for a regional, and currently has a 7 plus year upgrade (Feb2008 on 145). I have several friends who are 2008 hires and they are thinking they may not upgrade this year. If BB parks the Qs or 145 early, I would expect an 8 year upgrade at RAH. Also they are losing about 20 FOs a month, including those hired in the last 24 months. Go to a smaller regional that you can upgrade faster at and have cancellation pay.

LAXSAAB 01-19-2015 02:29 PM

Maybe he can ask the pilot recruiter at RAH for a copy of the employee survey completed fall 2014. I'm sure that would help him to make a decision.

Snickers 01-19-2015 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by LAXSAAB (Post 1807373)
Republic has one of the worst contracts for a regional, and currently has a 7 plus year upgrade (Feb2008 on 145). I have several friends who are 2008 hires and they are thinking they may not upgrade this year. If BB parks the Qs or 145 early, I would expect an 8 year upgrade at RAH. Also they are losing about 20 FOs a month, including those hired in the last 24 months. Go to a smaller regional that you can upgrade faster at and have cancellation pay.

Out of curiosity, has the company been pursuing these individuals to repay the remainder of their training contract?

LaserRacer 01-19-2015 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Snickers (Post 1807424)
Out of curiosity, has the company been pursuing these individuals to repay the remainder of their training contract?

Yes.

Filler.

LAXSAAB 01-19-2015 03:39 PM


Out of curiosity, has the company been pursuing these individuals to repay the remainder of their training contract?
In 2011 they were not enforcing the training contracts, but I'm sure they are now. Although I have heard the training contract is going away.

FirstClass 01-19-2015 04:23 PM

No cancellation pay, its preposterous. Don't go to Republic. All regionals suck but Republic is a special kind of suck.

billyho 01-19-2015 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1807489)
No cancellation pay, its preposterous. Don't go to Republic. All regionals suck but Republic is a special kind of suck.

I know there insurance cost is crazy high. Anyone know what they pay there for insurance? I almost remember a FO telling me he couldn't afford the family plan. That's kinda sad in itself.

morerightrudder 01-19-2015 06:33 PM

If you have no desire to go to an LCC/legacy, don't care about cancellation pay or insurance costs, and plan to live in Indy for the rest of your flying career, then mabye, it might be worth considering.

Keep in mind though that Indy is very senior (lots of lifers) so movement would be even slower than in other RAH bases.

Also, it's far from certain you will get IND initially. Most new hires have been going elsewhere at least in the past couple of months.

It's a nice shiny airport though! And you can walk from the parking lot to the terminal (in the freezing cold)

If you're going to interview, at least get someone to refer you, and split the referral fee or something.


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