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Fegelein 02-03-2015 12:24 PM

Student pilot to Delta Air Lines in <12 years
 
Some dude on Jetcareers joined as a student pilot in 2003 and just got a class date at Delta. That's pretty good, less than 12 years from student pilot to major airline pilot.

Firsttimeflyer 02-03-2015 12:28 PM

Not uncommon. I did it in less. And i know of several others that have done the same

TeddyKGB 02-03-2015 12:37 PM

Before the recent 1500 rule there were programs where you could go from zero time, to the right seat of a CRJ in < 1 year. To begin college/flight training @ 18 years old and to make it to a major by 30 years old is no huge feat.

FaceBiter 02-03-2015 12:39 PM

Cool story bro.

BeechedJet 02-03-2015 12:50 PM

Work hard and do the Delta internship, you can do it quicker than 12. Had a friend of mine I interned with over at AA and that got to American in 10.

encore 02-03-2015 12:54 PM

That actually seems kind of slow to me. Assuming 17 is the age that you started to fly/got your private, anyone hired at a major (and there are many of them) under the age of 29 beats that record.

Fegelein 02-03-2015 01:00 PM

I bet hearing that guys are making it from zero to a legacy in about 10 years is grating to the guys that have been regional pilots for as long, or longer.

bedrock 02-03-2015 01:02 PM

There are people doing it in less, but often on affirmative action. I know in 2006 timeframe, Continetal was hiring 26 yr olds with no TPIC, but the starting pay was an insulting 30K/ yr, no healthcare for 6mos.

BeechedJet 02-03-2015 01:03 PM

Timing and luck is 90% of it. 9% is having a sweet degree from ERAU. The other 1% is dual given in a 172.

Fegelein 02-03-2015 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by bedrock (Post 1818372)
There are people doing it in less, but often on affirmative action. I know in 2006 timeframe, Continetal was hiring 26 yr olds with no TPIC, but the starting pay was an insulting 30K/ yr, no healthcare for 6mos.

Yeah, but the guy in the example got on with Delta. Everyone wants to get on there.

cartean 02-03-2015 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by BeechedJet (Post 1818374)
Timing and luck is 90% of it. 9% is having a sweet degree from ERAU. The other 1% is dual given in a 172.

99% to go. Well on my way.

80ktsClamp 02-03-2015 02:06 PM

Mid 1998 to early 07 for me. No affirmative action, no short cut programs, and absolutely no university aviation programs!

NERD 02-03-2015 02:06 PM

Solo to Delta took me 20 years. However, 13 of those years were at NWA:p




Originally Posted by Fegelein (Post 1818335)
Some dude on Jetcareers joined as a student pilot in 2003 and just got a class date at Delta. That's pretty good, less than 12 years from student pilot to major airline pilot.


CanoePilot 02-03-2015 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Fegelein (Post 1818335)
Some dude on Jetcareers joined as a student pilot in 2003 and just got a class date at Delta. That's pretty good, less than 12 years from student pilot to major airline pilot.

It only took me 10, not at delta but in the same league. When I got hired most new hires at the majors were about 30 or so, maybe a little younger.

John Carr 02-03-2015 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by bedrock (Post 1818372)
There are people doing it in less, but often on affirmative action. I know in 2006 timeframe, Continetal was hiring 26 yr olds with no TPIC, but the starting pay was an insulting 30K/ yr, no healthcare for 6mos.

Not entirely true, and pretty ignorant on your part. Of that age/experience range you mention. Many were sons/daughter, former interns, whatever. Not just outside the majority demographic.


Originally Posted by Fegelein (Post 1818382)
Yeah, but the guy in the example got on with Delta. Everyone wants to get on there.

Yeah, and sadly, when CAL started OTS hiring in 2005 there was NO SHORTAGE of applicants there either. Wasn't till 2007 that NWA, DAL, and USAir started OTS hiring.

And read the back half of bedrock's post. NO health insurance for 6 months, $29-30/hr. Some even hired DIRECTLY into the 777. Doing glorious/glamorous India trips as a bunkee/IRO and having to go the sim every 6 months or flying the low credit garbage London stuff. Under one of the crappiest legacy contracts and WORST PBS systems ever. And I SAY AGAIN, NO SHORTAGE of applicants.


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1818421)
Mid 1998 to early 07 for me. No affirmative action, no short cut programs, and absolutely no university aviation programs!

I heard that train coming a mile away.

USMCFLYR 02-03-2015 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Fegelein (Post 1818382)
Yeah, but the guy in the example got on with Delta. Everyone wants to get on there.

There goes someone telling me I want to be a Delta pilot again! :D

I must be missing something.
Time to get my act together and get serious about this thing called aviation!

billyho 02-03-2015 02:53 PM

Had a kid at Piedmont get an interview with the Pre-interviewing process left Piedmont after just 4 years as a FO. Now he's been typed on the 190, 767, Airbus all before turning 30. Not bad at all.

PeezDog 02-03-2015 03:18 PM

Good for him. Worst thread ever

brakechatter 02-03-2015 03:19 PM

What about somebody who went from student to captain at Delta in 10 years?!?

There's always somebody with a better story.

TrakTrak 02-03-2015 03:28 PM

After I got off of active duty enlisted, I went from RJ to mainline in just under 7.

Cubdriver 02-03-2015 03:28 PM

It's great to accomplish a lot at a young age, but without the perspective to go along with it you can find yourself pretty unhappy or at best less happy than if it was a longer struggle. Knowing the high road entails knowing something of the low one too. In most cases it doesn't matter all that much but occasionally you see a burnout from a great job, or else a happy person doing a meager job. There is this old guy who tosses boxes on the ramp I frequent who is one of the happiest and apparently wisest people I have ever met. Eccentric for sure, but great perspective to be that happy.

ShyGuy 02-03-2015 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Fegelein (Post 1818335)
Some dude on Jetcareers joined as a student pilot in 2003 and just got a class date at Delta. That's pretty good, less than 12 years from student pilot to major airline pilot.



That's nothing. Try a flight attendant, 0 time in Feb 2010 as student pilot, XJT FO, and then hired Delta end of 2013 and in class in 2014. 0 time to Delta Air Lines in 4 years. Now that's inpressive!

John Carr 02-03-2015 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1818469)
It's great to accomplish a lot at a young age, but without the perspective to go along with it you can find yourself pretty unhappy or at best less happy than if it was a longer struggle. Knowing the high road entails knowing something of the low one too.

Sadly, some of the ones I've known that were on the "fast track" COMPLETELY lacked perspective. But I don't think they're up at night tossing and turing because they don't have a concept on how much of a "struggle" they should have endured. Many of them suffer from this "entitlement mentality" we hear so much about. Especially the ones that were hired mid 20's, NEVER upgraded nor signed for an airplane, whatever yet will tell you that that grueling 2-3 years as an RJ was the infamous "paying their dues".

For some reason, I'm pretty sure they sleep just fine at night. Thinking about how much more they're making than others, how much better their seniority will be at a young age, whatever. All while patting themselves on the back about how "hard they worked to get there". Running into some of them hired 2008 era that weren't furloughed sure seemed to whine a lot about how much it sucked to be stuck at the bottom of a seniority lest, not yet even 30 years old, on reserve, BUT STILL AT A LEGACY........

Before anybody flies off the handle, the keyword was "SOME".

SilverBullet 02-03-2015 04:02 PM

Yeah, most likely being a female and smokin HOT didn't hurt either.

hockeypilot44 02-03-2015 04:52 PM

I did it in under 8. Would have been faster, but had to waste 4 years on that pesky degree. Also had to waste 2 years flying in the right seat of an rj waiting to upgrade. If it wasn't for those 2 things, could have did it in 2 years.

John Carr 02-03-2015 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1818525)
I did it in under 8. Would have been faster, but had to waste 4 years on that pesky degree. Also had to waste 2 years flying in the right seat of an rj waiting to upgrade. If it wasn't for those 2 things, could have did it in 2 years.

That's because you were acquired NOT hired by an airline that wasn't at the top of your list.

80ktsClamp 02-03-2015 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1818525)
I did it in under 8. Would have been faster, but had to waste 4 years on that pesky degree. Also had to waste 2 years flying in the right seat of an rj waiting to upgrade. If it wasn't for those 2 things, could have did it in 2 years.

I'm sensing just a small drip of sarcasm. ;)

beech1980 02-03-2015 05:46 PM

I know of girls hired at 26 in the last few years....

Feng 02-03-2015 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by beech1980 (Post 1818559)
I know of girls hired at 26 in the last few years....

What about boys?

E2CMaster 02-03-2015 06:01 PM

12 years flying for the Navy.
3+ years out in the "Real World"
Not even an email from a major.

What exactly am I doing wrong again?

beech1980 02-03-2015 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Feng (Post 1818568)
What about boys?

Not that I know about.

TeddyKGB 02-03-2015 06:38 PM

I was on the < 12 year track until 9/11 hit. CJO @ UAL a month before 9/11. Student pilot in 1990.

80ktsClamp 02-03-2015 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Feng (Post 1818568)
What about boys?

My best friend (white male) was hired at 26, and I (white male) was hired at 25.

The so called "affirmative action" hires are exceedingly few and far between.

PILOTGUY 02-03-2015 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1818440)
There goes someone telling me I want to be a Delta pilot again! :D

Beat me to it, lol.

I know a guy, hired with less than 150hrs, retired at 60, and has a 35yr ALPA pin with a star. ( and only because they don't make 37yr pins).

You are right, there usually is a better story.;)

ShyGuy 02-03-2015 08:19 PM

I'm sorry but the ultimate winner was a United pilot in our jumpseat from LAX to SEA. He was upper 50s and a 747 CA. I inquired how long he had been at United which led to how old he was when he was hired. Turns out, this guy was hired at United Airlines at the age of 22 in 1978. He was furloughed for about 3 years or so in the 70s but other than that has had a great career. That's 35 yrs of service already and he still has another ~8 yrs left. He'll retire at 65 after having been at United for 43 years!

tom14cat14 02-03-2015 08:20 PM

Boy I am really screwing this thing up. My first flight was 10.5 years ago and I have not even upgraded. I am still on forced reserve. To think there were street captains at Mesaba when I was hired but I was too young to upgrade for a little over a year. And a merger and bankruptcy later I am just at close to the bottom as I was 6 months into Mesaba.

satpak77 02-03-2015 08:22 PM

Over a decade ? Why is this special ?

Rama 02-03-2015 08:29 PM

20 years PPL to Legacy woohoo.

WelcomeToBen 02-03-2015 08:33 PM

This thread represents everything I hate about this career.

PILOTGUY 02-03-2015 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by tom14cat14 (Post 1818659)
Boy I am really screwing this thing up. My first flight was 10.5 years ago and I have not even upgraded. I am still on forced reserve. To think there were street captains at Mesaba when I was hired but I was too young to upgrade for a little over a year. And a merger and bankruptcy later I am just at close to the bottom as I was 6 months into Mesaba.

I wouldn't say that. This is where the 90% luck part someone mentioned comes into play.
Most of the people I know were instructors or students when 9/11 happened. There have been a lot of derailments for many. Sometimes multiple. You can only truly know at the end of your career.


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