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TallFlyer 02-17-2015 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1827017)
Try Piedmont... If you get in now you'll be Gold. About to add 20 EMB 120's to a small pilot group with a true flow to American.

EMB 145s, right? ;)

gold 02-17-2015 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1827017)
Try Piedmont... If you get in now you'll be Gold. About to add 20 EMB 120's to a small pilot group with a true flow to American.

Upgrade is about to drop to 2 years and the contract, workrules, insurance and pay are good. I'll say the most negative is our schedules as they SUCK and the fact we have outbases which make commuting a nightmare. But if you want to live in base it pretty good stuff because all our bases have a low cost of living. Plus if you get in now you'll be ahead of the RJ arrivals and flow is picking up.
RJ's should be Hub based. Piedmont is a gamble but it could be a really good one. Much better then republic hands DOWN. We are all enjoying the movement of the flow each month as pilots are leaving and the rest are moving up the latter.
Nice to see guys upgrade and hold atleast a buildup line in few months.


Piedmont is the best choice for a regional right now hangs down. I went to PSA before the official AA/US merger and before planned growth was announced because I saw it all coming. I knew I was going to get ahead of everything. Pretty soon tons of guys will be jumping over to Piedmont similar to what's happening at PSA. Why not get ahead of everyone? Someone hired at Piedmont now will easily upgrade to the E145 in two years and flow to American in five.

pagey 02-17-2015 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by gold (Post 1827037)
Piedmont is the best choice for a regional right now hangs down. I went to PSA before the official AA/US merger and before planned growth was announced because I saw it all coming. I knew I was going to get ahead of everything. Pretty soon tons of guys will be jumping over to Piedmont similar to what's happening at PSA. Why not get ahead of everyone? Someone hired at Piedmont now will easily upgrade to the E145 in two years and flow to American in five.

But but but......

Another 9/11!! GAS PRICES!!! ISIS!! KIM FREAKIN' KARDASHIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

No one can predict the future.

Go somewhere that will give you the opportunity to leave in a few years. All the places offering "quick upgrade" or "flow" right now are decent places to work anyway. PDT, TSA, Compass, even :eek: .....PSA

Or....you could go to a "good" regional with a "great" contract(hint: the good ones aren't that much better than the bad ones) and get FO pay rates for 7 years. Hey, at least it's the "best" FO rate.

Snickers 02-17-2015 07:09 AM

AWAC or 9E

AlaskaBound 02-17-2015 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by whoareyou311 (Post 1826993)
If you want NYC I would take a serious look now at endeavor. With upgrades finally on the horizon as delta takes captains via the SSP(and people leaving for other airlines), and the highest pay for FO's in the industry for at least the next 4 years, the best delta connection travel priority, fairly good health and 401k benefits, etc. As a new hire you can almost guarantee yourself to be based at either JFK/LGA. Good luck.

That 5th year as an FO is going to be BRUTAL. That's if Delta decides to actually keep that BONUS and not get rid of it after figuring out it won't work. If you think you'll upgrade within 4 years at Endeavor you're crazy. After making 40K a year with the BONUS money the first 4 years then going back down to normal pay you after that you'll have to make some serious adjustments.
Some on here say upgrades are on the horizon. Until it happens I wouldn't bet on it.

PilotCrusader 02-17-2015 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1827015)
I don't know how RAH is recruiting anyone. Everytime I talk to an RAH pilot I feel like crying. Is it that ATP flight school feeding them fresh chum, is that the deal?

Had a relatively new reserve FO the other day that went through ATP Flight School. I shuddered when I heard his accounting of the experience. Among other things, he said he was sent to RAH shortly after his Commercial license was finished. Literally they flew him up to Indy and brain washed him. He said he felt like he needed to take a shower afterwards.
He said in his time there, he was pushed into interviews at several airlines he had no interest in. He didn't even realize they were voluntary. People just called him and/or emailed him and said "your going here for an interview on this day". He said it often interrupted his training.

tom11011 02-17-2015 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by scudrunner13 (Post 1826977)
Hi Folks,

Unfortunately I did not heed the warning many have given on this site regarding working for RAH/S5. I have been flying for Shuttle for the better part of a year now and I am looking to bail soon. I still haven't been placed in the base I was awarded through the last 2 bid awards, due to low or zero reserve levels. The contract we were all but promised to be voting on by end of first quarter 2015 seems to be coming to a screeching halt from the last few union email updates. There are so few pilots, I cant drop trips or trade for different trips in open time. I truly understand the meaning of not having cancellation pay after these last few months of winter. I really blame no body but my self. I initially focused my search on a regional airline that has a NYC/PHL base however, with Shuttle I've been having to commute anyway. So I am going to ask the million dollar question that 100 other people asked on this site. I know all regionals are basically the same. I've played in this game and the part 135 charter game for a while, however is there a regional that's looking like its going to be the place to be in the next few months, upgrades, good pay, flow, etc? Or should I go back to flying corporate charter? Again, this was a mistake I made and I am not looking to flounder here for years. Thanks

Just go anywhere besides Republic and I'm sure you will instantly feel like there's no better place to be (even though its not true) coming from Republic. If you have the 1000 SIC time then to to PSA or TSA for the quick upgrade.

CFIGUY22 02-17-2015 08:22 AM

Did you sign the training agreement? Not sure if they are pursuing people that leave early for it but it may be worth it regardless to pay the prorated part back and leave if you can go somewhere else and upgrade in a year...

SongMan 02-17-2015 08:24 AM

Many airlines are now paying for CTP course.

NewPil0t 02-17-2015 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by gold (Post 1827037)
Piedmont is the best choice for a regional right now hangs down. I went to PSA before the official AA/US merger and before planned growth was announced because I saw it all coming. I knew I was going to get ahead of everything. Pretty soon tons of guys will be jumping over to Piedmont similar to what's happening at PSA. Why not get ahead of everyone? Someone hired at Piedmont now will easily upgrade to the E145 in two years and flow to American in five.

Just finished the training, Piedmont is the way to go.


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