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Old 02-17-2015 | 05:36 AM
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Hi Folks,

Unfortunately I did not heed the warning many have given on this site regarding working for RAH/S5. I have been flying for Shuttle for the better part of a year now and I am looking to bail soon. I still haven't been placed in the base I was awarded through the last 2 bid awards, due to low or zero reserve levels. The contract we were all but promised to be voting on by end of first quarter 2015 seems to be coming to a screeching halt from the last few union email updates. There are so few pilots, I cant drop trips or trade for different trips in open time. I truly understand the meaning of not having cancellation pay after these last few months of winter. I really blame no body but my self. I initially focused my search on a regional airline that has a NYC/PHL base however, with Shuttle I've been having to commute anyway. So I am going to ask the million dollar question that 100 other people asked on this site. I know all regionals are basically the same. I've played in this game and the part 135 charter game for a while, however is there a regional that's looking like its going to be the place to be in the next few months, upgrades, good pay, flow, etc? Or should I go back to flying corporate charter? Again, this was a mistake I made and I am not looking to flounder here for years. Thanks
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Old 02-17-2015 | 05:47 AM
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And you are going to get the same responses as many other similar threads:
The undercover PSA recruiters will come in here and dazzle you with why PSA is soooo awesome.
The newly minted CQFOs at TSA, after having spent 5-7 years at Envoy and Xjet, are now so desperate for an upgrade that they would sell their mothers to slavery if it got you under them so they could move up.
People like me(Envoy guy) would say to find something with a good contract and an easy commute.
Where do you live?
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Old 02-17-2015 | 05:54 AM
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If you want NYC I would take a serious look now at endeavor. With upgrades finally on the horizon as delta takes captains via the SSP(and people leaving for other airlines), and the highest pay for FO's in the industry for at least the next 4 years, the best delta connection travel priority, fairly good health and 401k benefits, etc. As a new hire you can almost guarantee yourself to be based at either JFK/LGA. Good luck.
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Old 02-17-2015 | 06:08 AM
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The union is in bed with the company. I think the NC is legit, but they're in over their heads. No cba in sight....Ever. okay maybe when bb leaves in fifteen years.
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Old 02-17-2015 | 06:15 AM
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Hey air Wisconsin is a good gig I know there are a lot of people that will say we don't have a future but I am believes things will be alright upgrades are down to 4 years and decreasing and they have bases in phl and LGA. We are also paid pretty good with a good contract compared to others. Good luck on your future.
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Old 02-17-2015 | 06:21 AM
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Should we tell you how to cut your meat, too? No? Fine. Here is some info

PSA: 7 month upgrade with 1000 prior Part 121
Endeavor: Best overall take-home pay with 2 NYC domiciles.
Envoy: Downward spiral (staffing-wise for a while. Airline NOT going away)
TSA: I have no idea
Whisky: Good pay and contract. Good airline
SkyWest: 7-year upgrade, excellent flying, good company
Mesa: East Coast domicile (i think), growing fleet, 5hi77y pay.

DISCLAIMER: I probably have some of this wrong.
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Old 02-17-2015 | 06:23 AM
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I don't know how RAH is recruiting anyone. Everytime I talk to an RAH pilot I feel like crying. Is it that ATP flight school feeding them fresh chum, is that the deal?
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Old 02-17-2015 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
Should we tell you how to cut your meat, too? No? Fine. Here is some info

PSA: 7 month upgrade with 1000 prior Part 121
Endeavor: Best overall take-home pay with 2 NYC domiciles.
Envoy: Downward spiral (staffing-wise for a while. Airline NOT going away)
TSA: I have no idea
Whisky: Good pay and contract. Good airline
SkyWest: 7-year upgrade, excellent flying, good company
Mesa: East Coast domicile (i think), growing fleet, 5hi77y pay.

DISCLAIMER: I probably have some of this wrong.
XJT: Long upgrade but at least you'll get paid when your flight is cancelled!!!
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Old 02-17-2015 | 06:26 AM
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Try Piedmont... If you get in now you'll be Gold. About to add 20 EMB 120's to a small pilot group with a true flow to American.

Upgrade is about to drop to 2 years and the contract, workrules, insurance and pay are good. I'll say the most negative is our schedules as they SUCK and the fact we have outbases which make commuting a nightmare. But if you want to live in base it pretty good stuff because all our bases have a low cost of living. Plus if you get in now you'll be ahead of the RJ arrivals and flow is picking up.
RJ's should be Hub based. Piedmont is a gamble but it could be a really good one. Much better then republic hands DOWN. We are all enjoying the movement of the flow each month as pilots are leaving and the rest are moving up the latter.
Nice to see guys upgrade and hold atleast a buildup line in few months.
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Old 02-17-2015 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
The undercover PSA recruiters will come in here and dazzle you with why PSA is soooo awesome.
I'm not a recruiter, I just know how to do math.
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