hahahah yes! Just can't shake Turboprops!

 

Yes, the RJ will go pretty Junior also. Many don't want the seat lock because of the Flow and many won't leave current bases to commute to fly the EMB's even with the payraise. Senior guys just won't bid it cause its not worth the QOL change of living in base.

Many of our current Junior FO's will most likely all be line holding Jet Captains before the middle of next summer if it all works out like it should.

A year ago I'd say stay the hell away from Piedmont. Today, I'd say roll the dice the reward might be worth it. Very much worth it.

 

Aren't most of the Dash 8's about to leave? As in the airframes are timed out?

 

I don't know the exact numbers but they are slated to leave. We lose one this year and I think 5 in 2017. The Dash 8 fleet will probably be parked by 2019. They are few that they aren't painting in the new American colors so they will be gone in 2016 or earlier if needed due to lack of crews.

That being said after the 20 EMB's I have no clue. Even without the jets it's nice to see upgrades dropping. Just flew with a FO that was a 7 year seniority and is upgrading. The next guy I flew with was going to upgrade class had just over a 3 year seniority and they were only 1 month apart so it's dropping fast. However that was also a big gap in hiring at that time.

Like I said it's rolling the dice, but if you get in this year before the ERJ's you'll be mint.

 

AA in 5 years for a new hire from an AA flow program? Keep dreaming.

 

You just can't let it go can you? Delta can get rid of the bonus just like your company can stop paying you if they want. Which is more likely, Hulas stops and/or is unable to pay his employees or Delta stops paying their Endeavor employees?

 

That some serious spin!!

First, the last time I checked, a regional job ASAP is sort of the initial goal for a new pilot, unless you're thinking he should go straight to the majors. He's being offered multiple interviews at 121 carriers and real deal contingent offers of employment and he's just completed his commercial cert. He's sort of in the driver's seat. Whether we like the regionals or not, that's a pretty good deal from his position at that time.

Second, he still has to reach 1500 hours before he can actually convert that offer into an actual job at a regional. That's PLENTY of time (for a guy with wet commercial certs and only a few hundred hours) to scan the industry, fully inform himself and make an educated decision. To call one company's offer "brainwashing" is demeaning to your friend.

Depending on when many of us entered the regionals, I think plenty would have jumped at that sort of offer.

 

Go get an entry level job outside of aviation if you truly want a good perspective. Mesa has been really good to me, best job I ever had really. I think most regional pilots would come crawling back to their regional job on their elbows and knees if they experienced the crap waiting for them on the outside. I say most because most pilots aren't qualified for something else.
Anyhow, mesa would hire you, at least you'd get line guarantee, and a great pilot group to fly with. If there's a regional where you could live at base, that should be your first choice.

 

Actually once we get a few RJ's and the flow goes up to 5 a month 5 years from new hire to American won't be far fetched at all.

 

I don't really pay attention to who the "best" regionals are anymore so I can't comment on whether or not PDT is a good place overall. I will say through experience that flow agreements are not worth the paper they're printed on. For example look at the situation at AA this year, furloughees are coming back so the flow is essentially stopped for the year. Recalls coupled with the removal of the domestic / international fence are going to limit the amount of pilots AA needs to hire in the short term.

The way I see it flow deals are only good for guys who bust multiple rides or get in disciplinary issues and are not hireable anywhere but their flow destination.