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somertime32 03-20-2015 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by AceyCandler (Post 1846589)
Come on dude. I was hoping we could share thoughts that we'd otherwise be to shy/worried to mention infront of everyone else in the crew lounge. Let this guy believe more new hires or coming... I believed that'd happen too for the past 7 years. Now I'm sick and tired of waiting and hoping.

If you are sick and tired of waiting and hoping you have already answered your question.

Maingear 03-20-2015 03:39 PM

I wasn't really sure if I wanted to release this spreadsheet that I made, but it might help some people with some what-if scenarios if they jumped ship for a flow or faster upgrade. That being said I think the fast upgrades are over for now after The Great Reshuffle of 2014-2015.

This is a purely what-if calculator. If you want to see how long it will take to flow, just sub the CA seniority with the seniority of people flowing and sub the upgrades per month with flows per month.

http://bit.ly/1EykOQh

Remember that upgrade isn't everything and the numbers that are being predicted often are not the numbers that come true. Please don't base your career decisions off this spreadsheet. It's simply a tool to see where you might be using foretasted numbers.

Whiplash6 03-20-2015 04:01 PM

I'm surprised B-rad hasn't put out another monthly update to remind the FO's who are staring at a 9 year upgrade not to leave. Because that would be bad......for the company.


Just hang tight. Keep applying and then leave and let the lifers rot on the vine.

TalkTurkey 03-20-2015 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by todd1200 (Post 1846592)
I'm in a pretty similar situation as the OP. I went to a job fair recently and one of the people who spoke (head of hiring at a major) was talking about competitive mins and said they understand that a few regionals, specifically "Horizon and ExpressJet" have very long upgrades and it's okay if those FOs don't have any TPIC. IMHO, as senior FOs, we should keep our apps updated, go to job fairs, network, do a little volunteer work (gasp!), keep flying, enjoy the good schedule, and stop worrying about how far away the upgrade is. Don't get bitter, because it will come across in the interview and it will hurt your chances of getting hired elsewhere.

This post about sums it up for me. I agree. There are many guys in the same seniority conundrum. On the flip side, you still have a chance to acquire TPIC by going to PSA with their new announcement of still more airplanes

Bartender 03-20-2015 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Whiplash6 (Post 1846625)

Just hang tight. Keep applying and then leave and let the lifers rot on the vine.

I sympathize with many of our FOs that have been stuck in the rights seat. However I really enjoy watching guys like you rot in the right seat. Nice attitude towards your fellow pilots.

tothebigblue 03-20-2015 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by TxPilot07 (Post 1846587)
You are a moron. Everyone knows Expresjet is done.

God you're on here too? everyone do yourselves a favor and block this turd from here

ThreeStripe 03-20-2015 07:14 PM

The only way I see any movement is to buy out all the senior captains. It will give the 8 year right seat guys the upgrade and show upward movement to potential new hires. Every new captain wants out of the regionals, so they will not stay long. This will keep the movement going. Most of the current captains won't/can't leave, so no movement. You asked........

Machwon 03-20-2015 07:37 PM

As an 07 DOH at Eagle I feel your pain.

TxPilot07 03-20-2015 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by tothebigblue (Post 1846691)
God you're on here too? everyone do yourselves a favor and block this turd from here

*** is your problem with me? All I was doing is telling all these idiots out there how it is.

Nevets 03-21-2015 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by TxPilot07 (Post 1846768)
*** is your problem with me? All I was doing is telling all these idiots out there how it is.


This is how you get people trolling you, by calling them idiots.


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