Skyler02

Signs that things are finally turning around for pilots

Sign on and Retention Bonuses:
Envoy - $10,000 if you are coming from the “right” university
Republic – Sign on $7,500 - $12,000
Endeavor’s $80k over 4 years retention bonuses
Others?

Referral Bonuses

Mesa’s “Tuition Assistance”

Compass now pays for hotels during training and dropped both ME and TT Mins

I believe all regionals now provide single occupancy during training.

I believe all regionals dropped their training contracts.

ATP/CTP Courses are offered at regionals for those that haven’t taken the ATP written.

Southwest dropped their 737 Type Rating Retirement

Mins at all the majors have dropped.

Majors now hire FO’s with no prior 121 PIC.

What else am I missing?

Until PAY, BENEFITS, and QOL improves for pilots, young people will still avoid the time and financial commitments required for training. But at least there are signs that things are moving in the right direction.

Salukipilot4590

Why not just raise hourly pay....

Oh, right.

tothebigblue

Now if we can just get the whole regional industry to go away as a whole then all will be right with the world...

Skyler02

Of course. That' my point.

Things aren't really going to change until they pay pilots a wage commiserate to the financial and time commitment that it takes to become an ATP Pilot.

Skyler02

Agreed. The regional model has failed. It's time for the flying to go back to mainline where it belongs.

tothebigblue

there doesn't even need to be a huge deal about it.....take seniority lists and staple them to the bottom of the mainline lists and let us crawl as we are doing now!

saab2000

This ^^

It's a giant "B" scale. Except that it's really a "C" scale.

Cubdriver

That's right in theory but in practice there is no reason to think the middle class American pilot demographic supplying these sweat shops will ever listen to reason- they are well known for acting on other motivations besides pay and QOL.

These are all band-aids for the dip in pilot applications. Industry is still hoping the alleged pilot shortage will just go away sometime soon. The root problem is an excess in the supply side. The labor supply has tapered off a bit, but we know the total pilot reservoir has not been tapped out, which must occur before any real overhaul of pay and QOL can be anticipated. That will be a revolutionary event and one I doubt will ever happen.

Hacker15e

Compass' new hotels-in-training-paid-for is double occupancy. CPZ also still has a $12K training contract.

Skyler02

"Compass' new hotels-in-training-paid-for is double occupancy. CPZ also still has a $12K training contract."

Seriously? Wow. We will see how long that lasts.

It will last as long as people keep showing up I guess.