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Originally Posted by SilkyD
(Post 1874445)
*garbage from an imbecile*
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Originally Posted by Flying Ninja
(Post 1874453)
Nah, you didn't strike a nerve. CAPT was a huge mistake. But I own it. But keep digging at that hole if you really have nothing more constructive to add to the conversation.
Just stating how you complain about management sticking it and screwing over pilots while you did the same thing. Tried to get a fast track into the industry, bypass the guys doing it the legit way. But you got your a## handed to you. How's the DC9 type serving you? Hahaha. What a schmuck |
Originally Posted by SilkyD
(Post 1874461)
How's the DC9 type serving you?
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The only way things change are when people stand up for what they believe in, whether it's turning down a job that pays less, organizing a walk out, etc. Imagine the message that would be sent if nobody showed up for work one day. Taking your complaints to websites solves nothing, but actions do.
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Originally Posted by FraxAvi8tor
(Post 1874856)
The only way things change are when people stand up for what they believe in, whether it's turning down a job that pays less, organizing a walk out, etc. Imagine the message that would be sent if nobody showed up for work one day. Taking your complaints to websites solves nothing, but actions do.
So the message is being sent. It's just going to take awhile for that message to be delivered and the realities of it sink in with airline managers. By that time, I'm going to bet it'll be way too late. |
Originally Posted by pete2800
(Post 1874417)
"It's just business"...is the oldest excuse in the book when it comes to defending immoral behavior. And it's a weak, pathetic, cowardly "excuse", too...right along with the absurd "Don't hate the player, hate the game" meme. |
Originally Posted by VanDriver208
(Post 1874358)
Man, I want out of this industry so damn bad!!! Anyone want to start a bar with me?
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Originally Posted by Flying Ninja
(Post 1874868)
People are doing that. Many high school student pilots I talk to have zero desire to chase the airline career. Number one answers as to why: pathetic pay, poor quality of life, and ROI. The word is out and it has reached to the high school level. The fall out is only going to get worse in future years. The 1500 ATP rule isn't going anywhere. Even if it does somehow get abolished or modified, the effects of that rule has already reached the high school level. The pilot career will be a game for trust fund babies, if they're even interested.
So the message is being sent. It's just going to take awhile for that message to be delivered and the realities of it sink in with airline managers. By that time, I'm going to bet it'll be way too late. The fact is, there are people that are willing to fly and get paid less. It's contributed to where the industry now is. Someone will always want to drive a bus with wings, even if it means going to college and taking on debt to do it. Airline managers run their companies no differently than any other U.S. company, who's only responsibility is to it's investors. Statements like "things are going to change when X happens", or "the only people who are going to take these jobs are trust fund babies" are self-serving. There will always be someone willing to do my job and yours for less money, and someone to profit from it. Capitalism and greed are completely legal, and we're completely accepting of it. |
Originally Posted by FraxAvi8tor
(Post 1874906)
Sorry, but I disagree with you. That's what you would like to see, but it's simply not the reality.
The fact is, there are people that are willing to fly and get paid less. It's contributed to where the industry now is. Someone will always want to drive a bus with wings, even if it means going to college and taking on debt to do it. Airline managers run their companies no differently than any other U.S. company, who's only responsibility is to it's investors. Statements like "things are going to change when X happens", or "the only people who are going to take these jobs are trust fund babies" are self-serving. There will always be someone willing to do my job and yours for less money, and someone to profit from it. Capitalism and greed are completely legal, and we're completely accepting of it. It's contributed to where it is now .But you have to look at where it's going..10 years ago I would completely agree with your statement but the new generation seems a bit more interested in friends and family and making more money out of college. Regionals will have to offer up more and some already are.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by FraxAvi8tor
(Post 1874906)
Airline managers run their companies no differently than any other U.S. company, who's only responsibility is to it's investors. Sure it's correct, according to business schools. But this idea is as absurd as today's tuition costs. In fact, managers ARE responsible to their customers and their employees. Saying they aren't doesn't make it true. |
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