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flynavyj 05-11-2015 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by GrassLandings (Post 1878110)
No offense to the OP, but please god get a few months in as FO before taking a capt position at any regional with jets. Being "captain ready" wont be possible with that large of a gap in flying and proficiency.
In fact, with all these "quick upgrades" for guys with 1000 recent 121 tprop only time, has already led to problems. Lots of prop captains jumping ship, or being dispalced to jets (skywest) and shady things are happening because of it. You have been gone for a while and proficiency will be lacking at least a decent ammount, and therefor being captain right off the bat is a bad idea. These aircraft are no turbo props. The E175 and CRJ will eat you alive with a tprop mentalitly.

ah - you're right. The 10,000 hr Prop captain is far far far behind the 1500 hr Jet FO. Keep telling yourself that bud.

BTW - the idea of hopping in a king air and cruising around scares the sh*t out of me...same is true for a light twin. It's not because the aircraft is more complex than the jet, but when the crap starts hitting the fan things may try to kill me even more than the jet...and especially more than the little cessna I fly.

EuroMexPilot 05-11-2015 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1877691)
If you have 0 121 time, you can't upgrade. It will only be "quick" for those with 1000 hours of 121 time. Meaning those with 0 121 time are looking at a much longer upgrade time as those junior to them upgrade over them.

Dude.. stay on topic. This thread was started by someone who addressed his hours in his original post. He clearly has the time and that's why people mentioned it. You come across as Mr. KnowItAll around here and that's why people are bent out of shape.
At least be relevant to the conversation at hand. In this case, it's about a guy how has over 11,000TT with plenty of 121 PIC time. So brining up anything about 0 SIC is irrelevant.

404yxl 05-11-2015 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by EuroMexPilot (Post 1878405)
Dude.. stay on topic. This thread was started by someone who addressed his hours in his original post. He clearly has the time and that's why people mentioned it. You come across as Mr. KnowItAll around here and that's why people are bent out of shape.
At least be relevant to the conversation at hand. In this case, it's about a guy how has over 11,000TT with plenty of 121 PIC time. So brining up anything about 0 SIC is irrelevant.

There is nothing knowitall about the fact there are no quick upgrades for those with 0 121 time.

chrisreedrules 05-11-2015 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1878409)
There is nothing knowitall about the fact there are no quick upgrades for those with 0 121 time.

And anyone in the industry knows that? Without the prior 121 it will take a new hire at any airline a MINIMUM of 18 to 24 months to upgrade. What's your point?

EuroMexPilot 05-11-2015 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1878409)
There is nothing knowitall about the fact there are no quick upgrades for those with 0 121 time.

Did the OP open this thread asking questions about upgrade with 0 121 time? or did he say....


Originally Posted by speedbird213 (Post 1877389)
My background be-1900 captain Business express 1995 colgan air 1998 Sf340 captain colgan air 2000.
11509 tt bunch of pic in both aircraft.

But you feel the need to expain once again...in case no one has read any of the other threads you comment on about this that you can't upgrade without 121 time. I think we all get that, and no one in this thread suggested that you can. When the "quick upgrade" was addressed earlier in the thread, it was in the context of THIS POST.. and the OP explanation of his qualifications.

GrassLandings 05-11-2015 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by flynavyj (Post 1878370)
ah - you're right. The 10,000 hr Prop captain is far far far behind the 1500 hr Jet FO. Keep telling yourself that bud.

BTW - the idea of hopping in a king air and cruising around scares the sh*t out of me...same is true for a light twin. It's not because the aircraft is more complex than the jet, but when the crap starts hitting the fan things may try to kill me even more than the jet...and especially more than the little cessna I fly.

I never said that. I most certainly did not reference a 1,500 hour FO being a better candidate...DEFINITLY NOT. How about you read my post thoroughly so you can avoid lying to make me look like the bad guy.

What I did suggest due to recent events that occured to people in the same position, is that with only tprop time (many years ago at that) it would be a better idea to take a Capt. position after a few months on the line in the jet as an FO. Im sure many would agree with me on that. Time in type is still important, recency even more so. I know of a few high time airline and corporate pilots, that have perished in accidents in seemingly "simple" aircraft.

madmax757 05-11-2015 09:25 PM

For what its worth.

I am a retread and came back last year. Similar stats to the original post except I was at a major from 2000-01. Flew corporate till 08 then left flying till last year. Had my own business from 08-14. (did well but truly don't care for it)

I had been watching the industry and the APC boards and thought it would be a good time to come back. Got my medical, filled out airline apps Feb 1, 14. Had a bunch of interviews lined up within a week. I started at Compass in April 2014, (my first choice - live on west coast) was there almost a year and am now in class at F9 - With their expansion it looks like a great place for me.

I had not touched an airplane for over 6 years, put my best effort into training and it went very well. No BFR, no recurrent in a Cessna. It really is just like riding a bike!

I feel pretty fortunate and think it's a good time to come back if its what you desire. You might not make it to the big 3, but you can have a good QOL at a national or LCC - or even stay at a decent regional.

I should ad that i could afford to return to a regional because of my other income. Hope this helps anyone with this big decision. It has worked out for me so far.


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