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I WAS there, got furloughed, and am glad I was furloughed. This is why XJT took 6% concessions. To match the rates that Skywest Airlines were willing to do the flying for. It cost me my job.

Unions agree to things in times of weakness. They don't go to management and ask for lower rates. They give up after being put in that situation by the likes of... Skywest.

Fact is, Skywest put xjt in their current situation, which ironically, screwed themselves over in the long run. Funny and ironic now that it has all played out.

Skywest actually hurt Skywest.

Uh... Yeah.

Well, yes.

There were a lot of things in play at that time but personally, if you asked me to point to one boogey man then yes, it would be Skywest Inc. with the encouragement of Continental management. Continental had tried to use CHQ as leverage against XJT management for renegotiating the CPA rates. When that blew up in their faces (spectacularly!) CAL needed to cobble together a plan B that allowed them to at least somewhat save face and put them back in the driver's seat with respect to their regional feed. So along comes Skywest to play exactly the game CAL wanted and well, look who got left holding the bag.

In hindsight, it was probably the best possible outcome of all the terrible choices on the table at that time, but the rates that Skywest forced XJT into were just asinine and meant to do one thing: force XJT's hand and get Skywest's foot in the door with a big CAL CPA. We've, and by "WE" I mean everyone employed by Inc. (Skywest, XJT and ASA), have been living with the fallout since.

You're leaving out the loan that SkyW. gave to United!

We all know that unions in the airline business are different than almost any other union. Unions cannot force the company to do anything without the permission from daddy federal government. Leverage comes from outside factors and its up to the employee group if they can use it to make gains.



Inc was asking for a 16% concession, among other things such as furlough of a lot more than the eventual 350 or so.




And the $6 million CAL paid Skywest for its due diligence.

Just more revisionist history. The fact of the matter is XJT was on their last leg when their last ditch effort in California didn't pan out.

The management (not pilots) put XJT in a loose loose place. They agreed to terms that were not sustainable. By terms I don't mean only pilot pay rates.

There was a valiant effort put out by everyone involved in the California expansion but like so many others before you, it didn't pan out.
So you were faced with extinction or a crap sandwich. Inc thought they could turn your company around by forcing your inept management out and running the place better. I don't blame you for not taking concessions. I wouldn't have voted for them either. But I do blame your stubbornness for opposing every single improvement regardless of if they cost you personally anything. And SkyWest employees and shareholders subsidized your company for years while you all learned to get it together.
No matter now. The SGU team just took longer to make the turn around.

Wow! 48 posts over 5 pages, and nobody knows what this secret meeting and cryptic memo is about, just the usual idiotic infighting about who made XJT crappier.

I have some ideas what this is about, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see what they have to say. I will say that it sure doesn't sound like typical Section 6 negotiations to me when the company is making comprehensive proposals, and the chairman of the CNC isn't invited.

My thoughts exactly on all this bickering. Water under the bridge now. And further more, doesn't do anybody any good.

Out out DFW we get very little info and few rumors about what is going on in the rest of the system. Would like to hear your ideas about what is going on Capt. T.