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VTcharter 01-24-2007 11:41 AM

Don't let 'em scare ya
 
Hey, if Lakes is what you want, then go for it. It sounds like you have a good grasp on why you would like to be there and it is good for the fast upgrade. Obviously you aren' t going to make a career out of them, but it is a place to start. I have a buddy that flies for them in DEN and he loves it because he is based in his home town and has a good attitude about his career. I would have gone there myself, but I landed a good 135 gig. Last I heard, about a year ago, you could hold PHX as an FO in a month or two. Not sure if it is still the same though. Not many destinations out of PHX, so you will see a lot of the same airports. Page is a cool spot though, and they do a lot of overnights there, especially in the summer. Good luck

CaptainTeezy 01-24-2007 12:14 PM

Thanks VTcharter!!!

Cardinal 01-24-2007 06:44 PM

Most FO's who wan't PHX can hold it within within 1-6 months. It's all contingent on existing PHX FOs leaving or upgrading, which happens with some regularity. Upgrades have been leisurely the last few months, so your mileage may vary. Or you could drive/fly to TUS and work for Skywest.

BURflyer 01-26-2007 12:09 AM

I've heard that PHX only has like 4 or 5 pilots. I certainly wouldn't plan on any moves if those numbers are correct. Plan on DEN, they also fly EMB120s those are DEN only I think. Also I'd check the upgrades, according to this site it's 1.5 years, certainly not short especially for a 1900.

Fokker28 01-26-2007 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by BURflyer (Post 107994)
I've heard that PHX only has like 4 or 5 pilots. I certainly wouldn't plan on any moves if those numbers are correct. Plan on DEN, they also fly EMB120s those are DEN only I think. Also I'd check the upgrades, according to this site it's 1.5 years, certainly not short especially for a 1900.

I would aim to fly the plane you intend to upgrade into. And if it was me, I would try to commute for Skywest.

xjtr 01-26-2007 10:31 AM

I worked at Lakes for a year and absolutely loved it. I was also based in PHX. I live here so I bid it right away and got it in 2 months. As an FO it is fairly easy to hold PHX. As a captian, it is a little harder but not impossible. You'll love the experience you'll get flying the good ol mighty beech. I'm now at another company (hmm.. guess which) and love it here but still miss the beech and the people at Lakes. The mgmt sucks but especially in PHX you never see them. There are a lot of people who will tell you not to go there but very few, if any, have actually worked there. Most of the people at Lakes are happy to work there which is not true for Mesa... but then again I didn't work for mesa. Let me know if you have any questions..

xjtr 01-26-2007 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by BURflyer (Post 107994)
I've heard that PHX only has like 4 or 5 pilots. I certainly wouldn't plan on any moves if those numbers are correct. Plan on DEN, they also fly EMB120s those are DEN only I think. Also I'd check the upgrades, according to this site it's 1.5 years, certainly not short especially for a 1900.

Phoenix has about 10 crews (20 pilots) They fly to IGM PRC PGA FHU SOW and soon to Gallup (i think)

G2TT 01-26-2007 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 107179)
I would never recommend them but seeing your situation....:eek: ...Whoa I don't want to say it...:eek: .....it's killing me to try to say it...:eek: ....what about Mesa? Fly there Dash 8's out of PHX. A little better pay, a little better respect (actually NO), and a little better money. They're hiring street CA so upgrade is quick.

My advice, have her go to a different school or commute. Neither airline is really worth it!

OR, get hired my Pan Am International Flight Academy and instruct for them. They pay $15 and hour, you can easily fly 100 hours a month and if you commit to a year you can work in their Korean program for 30K a year. I instructed there and they need CFI’s.

What part of instructing 100 hours a month in the heat of the Arizona desert sounds like fun? I did it, and wouldn't recommend it. If the wife wants to go to ASU for a chemistry PHD do whatever it takes for her to get it.

ANPBird 01-26-2007 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by xjtr (Post 108199)
I worked at Lakes for a year and absolutely loved it. I was also based in PHX. I live here so I bid it right away and got it in 2 months. As an FO it is fairly easy to hold PHX. As a captian, it is a little harder but not impossible. You'll love the experience you'll get flying the good ol mighty beech. I'm now at another company (hmm.. guess which) and love it here but still miss the beech and the people at Lakes. The mgmt sucks but especially in PHX you never see them. There are a lot of people who will tell you not to go there but very few, if any, have actually worked there. Most of the people at Lakes are happy to work there which is not true for Mesa... but then again I didn't work for mesa. Let me know if you have any questions..

ATTENTION everyone: I can now say I have heard and seen everything on this board! I can count at least two dozen + people I know who have worked at Lakes (Most but not all of them flew in the mid 90's - Spencer, IA days) and not one of them has ever said they liked working at GREAT LAKES! I guess there is always a first for everything! Thank You!

BigWatchPilot 01-26-2007 01:29 PM

Unless you are like some of these guys that want a lifelong career at their kickass regional airline...my friends that flew at Lakes had a great time...it is what YOU make of it. I was at Mesa and had a great time....along with friends that also did. Well...we were all there less than 4 year and now we have all moved on to Southwest and FedEx...

These other guy will probably tell you to hold out for a real airline like United and Delta...


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