Cqfo vs dec
 

Just curious what people are deciding

I honestly don't know that TSA CQFO is a good deal at this point. The growth is half over and without attrition the most junior new hire who could hold captain has already been hired.

Staying where I am and waiting it out. These programs often work out badly for those involved.

Crabs vs herpes

Now Dec and cqfo is just a way for them to be able to staff the right seat. If they didn't offer decs or cqfo nobody would show up for class.

Me too. I think you'll see more high time FOs getting on at majors in the next year or 2. Why start over. Enjoy the seniority and QOL

I think Tsa will always be a revolving door, definitely the shortest upgrades.

Cqfo because if you go dec that means you're scum. PSA is just that. Just saying.

^^^^ this guy gets it!!!!! ^^^^^

I'm pretty sure it's a way for them to staff the left seat actually.

Not at Tsa at least. I guess PSA still has people show up for a regular FO position?

$43 to sit in the right seat isn't too bad! Even if it takes a year or 2 to upgrade

There is not one regional airline better than PSA right now. Just accept the truth and move on. That may not always be the case but it is today.

Good Luck!

For someone with no 121 time, I'd say Piedmont is probably the best opportunity to go get a job with right now. All things considered.

All I can say is haha. PSA is old news. With your outlook on the industry you'd make a terrible stock broker. Remember, buy high and sell low.

Old news with 70 more airplanes to arrive in the next 2 years. The only thing old is your crusty underwear. :p

Is that also a 100% guarantee? Say you can't staff those 70 planes, think the mainline partner will just let you keep getting flying because they like you?

Well, we only need another 500 or so pilots to staff AAG's end number. Our classes have waiting lists, and no other regional is really filling classes at a similar rate. That being said if I were new to 121 PSA wouldn't be my first choice, It'd be PDT.

Remember back in 2013 when every single person on this website guaranteed us that AAG was gonna put 1 900 on our certificate just to cap us? How did that work out? Or how about the "you guys can never staff 30 new acft PSA is going to fold." We have since taken delivery of ~35.

PSA has it's issues but so does every regional, and as I said it wouldn't be my first choice of regionals as a 0 time guy in his 20s but there really aren't many alternatives offering anything better.

If PSA can't staff them then nobody can staff them, its that simple.

If your a zero time 121 guy I would not be looking at PSA right now. There will not be enough movement for you. I would look at PDT, Compass and Skywest. Possibly Endevour if you live in base. Also Envoy may become a decent place, but management needs to address several issues.

If you already have 121 time and can get hired as a DEC PSA may be an option, but understand that you will continue to be bypassed on the Captains list as FOs hired before you continue to upgrade.

CQFO I understand why that airline is doing it, but I am not sure I would want to work for that company at all.

That is the promise. But some cracks are starting to show.

Why do either? Chasing upgrades often ends very badly.

Or with an upgrade

And sitting eternal reserve at both places..

Possibly, yes.

Closer to Probably

Perhaps

Filler

Aren't there 4 year FOs on reserve at Envoy right now? How long is reserve at XJT? Skywest?

2 Year reserve is certainly probable for a DEC right now, but again, what is the better option? Some might feel that turbine PIC is what is needed to push them over the top for whatever job they are trying to get, others might really need the money due to who knows what.

It's not for everyone but it may work for some. I don't see that it's any worse than being an FO on reserve elsewhere.

Envoy: Yes and some Captains too.
XJT/Skywest: I don't have that info.

It's 2 year reserve if you were hired 2 years ago. If hired today that may change. Just like Envoy has 4 year reserve and 16 year flow, if you were hired 4 or 16 years ago. Both will change of that I have absolutely no doubt.

Absolutely. It's a personal choice and each individual has to find what will be right for them and their families. As far as the next job, marketing and networking will have more of an effect on that transition then anything else. I personally know of about 20 FO that have been hired by major airline (Delta, UPS, American, etc.) with 0 121PIC. I personally don't think 121 PIC gives a canadet as much of an advantage as it used too.

Each individual will have to make their own judgement call on that.

There's no cracks. Right now everything is crack free.

You can't have the cake and eat it too. You'll be stuck in eternal regional hell if you go dec because of reserve.

You just keep on repeating that mantra.

Just got off the phone with a buddy of mine. He spent his fourth year anniversary on standby at the airport. After 4 years, he isn't even holding a good reserve line.

Another pal of mine has been at TSA for 3 years. Not quite at 1000 TPIC yet, but he's getting there. You decide.

What equipment/base?

Would you rather sit reserve as an FO or reserve as a Captain? Envoy has FO's on reserve for 4 years.

Also, reserve Captains are flying alot as PSA.

Of course any of this is subject to change but that's the story right now.

Thank you, I will. Once something changes I'll be the first to say so.

CRJ. Not sure which base.

I'd rather bathe in pig dong than be a DECtard at PSA reserve or not. I hope training standards there are better than others to compensate for the lack of total experience. Then of course there's the regional transplant FOs who contribute to the demise of our industry by making lateral moves.

All DECs so far have been highly experienced RJ pilots. What makes you think they are any less safe than whoever upgrades at your airline? Or any airline for that matter.

"PSA voted for 12/4, that must make their pilots are unsafe"........Genius.

When did I say anything about unsafe?

You would rather delay your career by a half of a decade, if not more, just to have the feeling of moral superiority over another pilot?

Wow...regional pilots are not very smart.