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Rahlifer 07-28-2015 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by 20sx (Post 1939307)
Why all the talk of shutdown? They are still making money....what don't I understand?

We're parking airplanes because we can't staff our flying. We can't attract fresh meat with our outdated contract. Once airplanes start getting parked, pilots get furloughed. It's difficult to attract new pilots when you offer no future. It's a crazy cycle that's difficult if not impossible to stop. More and more pilots are going to leave which results in more parked airplanes along with downgrades and furloughs. Company shrinks to oblivion, CEO walks away with millions.

FirstClass 07-28-2015 06:50 PM

From the news today

"The airline pointed to an ongoing operational disruption caused by regulatory changes as well as an ongoing labor dispute with pilots for the lower earnings and revenue figures."

It seems both the company and the pilots are suffering from the same problem: lower earnings and revenue figures.

block30 07-28-2015 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Selfmade92 (Post 1939330)
if the airline would go down, that wouldn't necessarily mean a crazy surplus of pilots, wouldn't a lot of planes get shuffled between other regionals which then have to staff them by hiring the laid off republic pilots?

or does republic own the planes themselves? but then delta etc could pick up those planes for cheap probably and send them to whatever regional?

or do i just not understand the industry at all? :D

My thought, too. RAH flies a lot of jumbo RJs. Some of them brand spankin' new. Those planes will be flown by someone.

Ronaldo 07-28-2015 06:58 PM

The last time I saw the Reverend BB he didn't look very well. I told a couple of people he looked worn out, sick and resigned, basically like his pilots. I am now wondering if the FAIL in the spring to get a contract and the subsequent reduction in flying constituted writing on the wall for him.

So sad that he's willing to put 6000 employees out of work just to spite the pilots over scope, among other issues. Scope? Really? We're a f'ing regional and you want to outsource? Where's the gasoline?

seafeye 07-28-2015 08:50 PM

PSA has hired almost 1000 pilots since the regulatory changes. Don't think they should be able to use that excuse. The pilots are out there. If people are willing to work for PSA. Then why not republic?

FEtoFO 07-28-2015 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Rahlifer (Post 1939332)
We're parking airplanes because we can't staff our flying. We can't attract fresh meat with our outdated contract. Once airplanes start getting parked, pilots get furloughed. It's difficult to attract new pilots when you offer no future. It's a crazy cycle that's difficult if not impossible to stop. More and more pilots are going to leave which results in more parked airplanes along with downgrades and furloughs. Company shrinks to oblivion, CEO walks away with millions.

Why would he furlough? I could certainly see downgrades to staff the right seat, but most would leave after downgrade. why not just sale S5 to Delta and send the pilots that are on the certificate. I'm sure Delta would love to whipsaw again. Sounds like YX will be the surviving certificate anyways.

170Homie 07-28-2015 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by FEtoFO (Post 1939411)
Why would he furlough? I could certainly see downgrades to staff the right seat, but most would leave after downgrade. why not just sale S5 to Delta and send the pilots that are on the certificate. I'm sure Delta would love to whipsaw again. Sounds like YX will be the surviving certificate anyways.

He can't. One list.

404yxl 07-28-2015 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 1939401)
PSA has hired almost 1000 pilots since the regulatory changes. Don't think they should be able to use that excuse. The pilots are out there. If people are willing to work for PSA. Then why not republic?

The experiment at PSA hasn't worked as planned and they have already slowed down. If you didn't go to PSA already, you missed the boat. Sure, go for street captain if you have the time, but you will be junior for a long time. Their woes are just beginning. Compass is starting to experience it now.

Now the 50 jet replacement that Republic has tried to replace the Envoy pilots is failing. They only staffed the Envoy flying by parking other airplanes.

You can be successful in this environment with the initial replacement wave, but once you get past the initial seniority bump, the staffing issues will go the other way.

This isn't pre-2013 ATP minimum replacement anymore. Republic failed to adapt and this is the result.

flapshalfspeed 07-29-2015 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by daOldMan (Post 1938152)
They were the advisors that saved Monarch Airlines, if memory serves correctly.

Seabury was also an engineer of the Pinnacle/Mesaba/Colgan bankruptcy.

This is starting to sound like the Pinnacle/Phil Trenary playbook--a sham bankruptcy for Bedford to extract as much money as possible from the shareholders prior to Chapter 11, after which one of your codeshare partners or a private equity group will finance you out of bankruptcy, slap a bankruptcy contract on you, and lay out a plan for your future operational structure.

Ray Red 07-29-2015 03:43 AM

How many pilots does republic currently have?


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