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Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 1942806)

Point is, regional pilots' low pay is not the reason mainline pilots get paid well.

The inverse though is true. Regionals were created to offset the higher mainline labor expenses.

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Originally Posted by Saabless (Post 1942351)

Legacy carriers with wholly owned regionals will thrive. They will have a pipeline of people signing up with them because of their quick flow throughs in the near future. Maybe seniority numbers give out, if things get tight. New hire regional FOs will flow within 4 or 5 years due to retirement numbers. People will always go to a regional that has a quick flow through to a major. Envoy will be the first "place to go to" once things spool up. Majors without flow throughs will have a tough time attracting new hires for their regionals. Therefore affecting their regional reliability.

Ask a 23 year old 1,500 hour pilot where he wants to start at. They will pick a regional that has a quick flow or seniority number given out, over a quick upgrade at some other regional.

I totally agree! The time to act is now. Don't go to a regional without a SOLID FLOW and higher pay. Envoy is a start, those numbers will get better. What some people are not getting is that this side of the pilot industry has been surrpressed so long that this low pay, etc. is normal in the business world. It is not. A young person coming out of college should be looking at a 70k to 80k salery to start. This should be no different in the aviation industry. The pilot group as a whole is now a valuable commodity.
Let's all wake up and start demanding better lives for us and our familys!

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Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1942316)

High mainline pay only exists because regional pilots are paid so low. Mainline pilots sold scope in exchange for high pay.

That's got too be the most ignorant thing you've said on here, and that's saying something.

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Both regionals (pay too low) and legacies(pay too high) need to go away.

The LCC's should be the new standard. Not too high, not too low and sustainable business models. The international flying can be covered by Jet Blue, Spirit and the like with A330's, et al.

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Originally Posted by Ace Hotshot (Post 1943108)

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Originally Posted by Ace Hotshot (Post 1943108)

I like that joke,Ace Hotshot. :D

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Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1942026)

The most recent UND study of people entering the profession listed the top three concerns. They are focused on pay structure primarily. Their second focus was quality of life and how the employer treats their workers, and then came flow and career advancement programs. There were other criteria listed, but those were the dominant three per their study.

Your opinion is not supported by recent research in our field.

They aren't enering the profession because they want to go make a difference; they are chooing other professions because the cost/benefit to this profession is no longer there.

I fully agree with you on that point. I do recall that most are saying that pay is a major issue. Any idiot can easily see that the system is set up to keep all of us at the regional level.

I can't believe how stupid people are. That look at a few retirments and make the assumption that the airlines will gladly deplete their regional pilot ranks. Think of what that will cost them.

Flows are another misguided belief. Read the damn fine print.