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Fegelein 08-16-2015 05:35 PM
Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1950458)
I'll have to agree. There is better and more accurate terminology such as contract airline or teaching airline (similar to a teaching hospital).

As far as being paid what you are worth, that can't happen because pilots do not believe that. Most don't think for a second they could be stuck where they are at.
With the large number of mandatory retirements at the majors coming soon, every regional pilot that want to go to mainline will have the chance to go, as the majors will be begging for pilots before you know it.

Fegelein 08-16-2015 05:38 PM
Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 1950473)
Nothing will change as long as we have pilots like PSA willing to undercut fellow pilots.

There was a good No / stand up for the industry movement starting until PSA shut that down with one simple vote.
How else were their pilots going to get time in heavy RJs with underwing engines?

Fegelein 08-16-2015 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Bootleg (Post 1950488)
I agree with you on most of what you said there. There are some "zero cost" alternatives. For instance; getting a mainline seniority number when you're hired at c-scale. That's tangible

What would your opinion of that be? Agreeable??

When this bankrupt business model finally fails, the flying will revert to mainline, where it belongs anyway.
Agreed. And flow by major pilots hired via traditional major airline standards, not flow through regional pilots.

PSASUX 08-16-2015 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by Fegelein (Post 1950629)
How else were their pilots going to get time in heavy RJs with underwing engines?
You sir are a real genius. Envoy sold out for the 175's. Not PSA.

squib 08-16-2015 10:14 PM
Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1950480)
Don't be a jack*$$. 25 year old pilots have nothing to do with it.
Funny, it doesn't look like anyone mentioned "25 year old" pilots. Which who cares in my opinion. If you can fly the plane then there's no issue. Seems like you have something to prove.

TheFly 08-17-2015 05:38 AM
Originally Posted by John Carr;

And don't EVER FORGET, ALPA national under the leadership of lisping Moak the Joke DIDNT feel that regional pilots deserved to be compensated MORE and that they SHOULD take pay concessions.
Yep, but some people are smoking ALPA crack & think they will do the regionals good. They represent the major carriers, at the expense of the regional ones.

jetn67 08-17-2015 05:52 AM
Originally Posted by Fegelein (Post 1950636)
Agreed. And flow by major pilots hired via traditional major airline standards, not flow through regional pilots.

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jethikoki 08-17-2015 05:59 AM
Originally Posted by use2fly (Post 1950617)
I hate hearing "pay us what we are worth". Unfortunately, we are all being paid what a majority of regional pilots think we are worth. By voting in all of these POS contracts, we have set a ridiculously low "worth".
And what did mainline and ALPA think a regional pilots worth was before giving up scope? There was a time when regionals were not allowed into ALPA. Mainline pilots have even more ability to take back "their" flying. Just take back your scope agreement and stop all farming and or permitted flying. You may need to fight and give up your pay and profit sharing. Go for it.... The ball is in DAL pilots court. Lets wait and see how much flying they take back.

deltajuliet 08-17-2015 08:13 AM
Sadly mainline will maintain the status quo on scope and hope the shortage does their work for them. I don't blame current mainline guys, but I do blame the ones who voted for scope erosion in the 80's and 90's. Once that Pandora's box opened, it's nearly impossible to go back. We can blame a lack of unity among pilots now, ALPA, or management, but it would've been nice if future pilots were never sold out to begin with.

Or maybe we could blame American for the first B-scale. Or maybe even the proponents of Deregulation. In any event, cat's out if the bag now, and it's hard to hold the line if there's a single weak link among the pilots. I guess what I'm saying is I'm in favor of union thugs.

word302 08-17-2015 09:07 AM
Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1950859)
Sadly mainline will maintain the status quo on scope and hope the shortage does their work for them. I don't blame current mainline guys, but I do blame the ones who voted for scope erosion in the 80's and 90's. Once that Pandora's box opened, it's nearly impossible to go back. We can blame a lack of unity among pilots now, ALPA, or management, but it would've been nice if future pilots were never sold out to begin with.

Or maybe we could blame American for the first B-scale. Or maybe even the proponents of Deregulation. In any event, cat's out if the bag now, and it's hard to hold the line if there's a single weak link among the pilots. I guess what I'm saying is I'm in favor of union thugs.
It's hard to tell if you're serious considering who you work for. You can't really take a job at a company with the worst contract and then ***** about the state of the industry.


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