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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 110139)
While UPS is as stable as stable can get, don't ever take anything for granted.
For all you know, you could be out of a job tomorrow. So could I. No one knows for sure. You think Pan Am pilots in 1975 thought their airline would tank in 1992? Heck no! And yes, Cargo is very stable and has been relatively unaffected by the after-effects of 9/11 as far as paycuts and concessions go. Cargo shipments on planes are still a security threat. Just imagine if al-Qaeda or some other terrorists were successful in getting explosives on multiple cargo airplanes. You can bet there would be layoffs in the ensuing after math. |
Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
(Post 110129)
You're a true blue idiot. I work for a certain brown company, and my office is the right half of a machine that dubbs the number 7 and 5 and 7 (and 7 and 6 and 7). So I'm not so sure that I need a second job, dumba$$. I am trying to pull the wool off of the younger peops eyes. You sound like you are management. :mad:
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
(Post 110144)
your post is irrelavent. Why not just tell me the sky is blue.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 109700)
And who relaxed the scope during the early to mid 90s on RJs, to protect widebody pay and other issues?
That's right, mainline pilots back in the day. Mesaba is getting 36 CRJ900s (equipped with 76 seats)? The way I see it, this is a direct one-on-one replacement for the Avros they lost. There used to be 36, and all of them are gone, and many Mesaba pilots were laid off. This new flying will only help bring back Mesaba to where it was before. |
Its too bad mainline pilot groups didn't scope RJs in the early 1990s...otherwise HMP wouldn't have anything to ***** about.
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Hey Hotmama.. You are 34 and fly for UPS... congrats! Want a cookie? For someone 34 years old and in "admittedly" a good position, don't you think you should act more of your age and a bit more professional? This thread is under the subpart for the regionals and last I checked there was a section for Cargo, so why not go over there and try to knock everyone down at the knees? You wanna try and make everyone feel soo bad for being in this industry and it makes no sense for you when you are on the other side of the airport. And keep in mind this industry does go up and down. My father was talking to me just a couple days ago about when he had to choose between fedex and united in 1990. United was the top paid airline and fedex was up and coming, yet with alot of question marks- sure fedex did better now, but at the time united would have been better. 15 years later United was furloughing... You have at least 26 years left to work so dont count your eggs before they have all hatched. While I think the cargo arena is the most stable one in the air, management could still screw it all up and put companies in a bind later when trying to compete with other competitors. UPS and FDX can only jack up prices to ship stuff soo much before someone else will cut into business cheaper. Just look at the passenger arena- if southwest and jet blue were not around the majors would have jacked up prices years ago to thwart off deficits. There is no guarantee that could not happen to you in the next 26 years. I dont wanna start a bickering match with you hotmama, but it would be nice to get on here just one day and not have you giving everyone a hard time.
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Originally Posted by higney85
(Post 110201)
Hey Hotmama.. You are 34 and fly for UPS... congrats! Want a cookie? For someone 34 years old and in "admittedly" a good position, don't you think you should act more of your age and a bit more professional? This thread is under the subpart for the regionals and last I checked there was a section for Cargo, so why not go over there and try to knock everyone down at the knees? You wanna try and make everyone feel soo bad for being in this industry and it makes no sense for you when you are on the other side of the airport. And keep in mind this industry does go up and down. My father was talking to me just a couple days ago about when he had to choose between fedex and united in 1990. United was the top paid airline and fedex was up and coming, yet with alot of question marks- sure fedex did better now, but at the time united would have been better. 15 years later United was furloughing... You have at least 26 years left to work so dont count your eggs before they have all hatched. While I think the cargo arena is the most stable one in the air, management could still screw it all up and put companies in a bind later when trying to compete with other competitors. UPS and FDX can only jack up prices to ship stuff soo much before someone else will cut into business cheaper. Just look at the passenger arena- if southwest and jet blue were not around the majors would have jacked up prices years ago to thwart off deficits. There is no guarantee that could not happen to you in the next 26 years. I dont wanna start a bickering match with you hotmama, but it would be nice to get on here just one day and not have you giving everyone a hard time.
Take a look here higney: http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...55&postcount=7 " Listen to groovin', for his comments are just that. The regionals are no place to be now. So many are stuck there and can't get out. The pay and qol is miserable. I was lucky to get out early, thanks to a few friends and a "favorable" gender. Stay Put!!!! keep trying for net jets and be happy!!!! " Even SHE admits she got hired cause she has tits and cameltoe... |
Every UPS pilot I have ever met has been a prick. HMP perpetuates that stereotype. Some of the things she says actually do make sense though.
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Originally Posted by fosters
(Post 110210)
Every UPS pilot I have ever met has been a prick. HMP perpetuates that stereotype. Some of the things she says actually do make sense though.
The VAST majority of them are absolutely great people to be around, and don't have a holier-than-thou superiority complex because they're flying a 757 instead of an RJ. |
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 110229)
You haven't met very many UPS pilots then.
The VAST majority of them are absolutely great people to be around, and don't have a holier-than-thou superiority complex because they're flying a 757 instead of an RJ. Agreed- I've flown back from the EU on UPS (pre-9/11) and have never had a better Jumpseating experience. I know several UPS folks and all of them are great pilots and good friends. One of them was even a mentor up to his retirements a few years back. |
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