Just curious FlameNSky, have you applied elsewhere to try and move on from Envoy? Not to say the flow isn't a good insurance card. I kept it in my back pocket as well but managed to get out to an LCC. Just wondering if you were all in waiting for the flow or were actively pursuing other avenues?

I am but not the LCCs. Not where I want to end up. Delta, AA or United, which ever one calls first, I'm gone.

Fair enough. Just in case you change your mind though, Spirit, Jetblue and to a lesser extent, Frontier, are a step up from any regional. I wouldn't consider Allegiant or Virgin America in the same category necessarily. However, it might not be a bad place to wait it out for the Big 3 depending upon where you are in line for flow.

It's not easy getting hired at an LCC either. I spent lots of time networking and went to an OBAP, WIA, Jetblue job fair and two Spirit fairs before I got the call. After 2 years at NK, I can say far and away it's a major step up. On 3rd year pay and less than a year left to upgrade, I'm making 10 year Eagle CA pay due to our soft credit that's pretty easy to get with a bit of seniority.

NK folks are leaving for United pretty regularly too. That's really the only one I'm hearing much about. Rarely hear about people leaving for Delta and never AA. Although we still have furloughed AA guys here who have to make a decision by March 2016. Many of them are leaning toward staying here.

Beats an ethically bankrupt salesman every day of the week and twice on Sunday's. :p

The Gospel according to eaglefly.
Roger.

Yup, that's my gospel. Let's face it, that ALL you guys have. Nothing of substance, Nothing with foundation. Just flying rocks, splattered mud and empty sales pitches.

That's it. :cool:

What do you have? As you said, your OPINION (imo = in my opinion) that there is a pilot war going on.

Nothing else. And the constant parroting of a small group of salesmen. You would have made much more progress if you made your point and left it - let people debate the merits of it. You sound now like a used car sales man (hey, I didnt even mean to use the word salesman) trying to convince the couple that just walked off the lot that the jalopy that just wouldnt start for the test drive is worth it.

~Eaglefly dubbed "Envoy Salesman"

Snippets, next week envoy will make a huge announcement according to your savior.

The tide is turning!

Good Luck!

I dunno... Most of us have LIVES.

That is the true root of the problem. In your narcissistic arrogant mindset, you are the ultimate authority on all matters and anyone who doesn't agree with you in the problem. Hitler and Manson had the same qualities. Lets hope your life turns out better than theirs.