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For a second I thought I was in the cargo forum. Guess cargo jumpseat questions are more appropriate in the regional section??
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Originally Posted by mrcdkit90
(Post 1975753)
What's it like to jumpseat on cargo flights? Do you sit in the cockpit or do they have beds? :D
FedEx 757: Two cockpit jumpseats, one bench for two closer to the door. The bench is REALLY tight FedEx MD11: 2 cockpit jumpseats, 2-4 Business class seats in the back. Padded cots for the floor for crew rest. FedEx 777: 2 cockpit jumpseats 4 business class seats, 2 bunks. FedEx A300: 2 cockpit jumpseats, 4 FA style fold down seats aft. UPS 767: 1 Cockpit jumpseat, 3 FA style fold down seats on aft cockpit bulkhead, one right next to the lav. UPS MD11: Same as FedEx UPS 747: 2 Cockpit jumpseats, 6-12 business class seats on the upper deck (depends on if it's a -F or -BCF), 2 bunks. Priority for the bunks is usually: - Operating crew for 3 man crews - Online JS - Offline JS. I've not been on any supplemental 747s for a flight, but I'm 98% sure the configuration will be the same. As I recall: -FedEx you can book a guaranteed seat up to 24 hours in advance of departure time for each leg. Call ahead to cancel if need be. DO NOT NO SHOW or you could get your company blacklisted. Casual attire (i.e. jeans) permitted. -UPS you can book up to ten days in advance but can be bumped by UPS pilots up until boarding. Business casual or better, or uniform. 99% of the crews have been top notch and very friendly. If you want to sit up front, they'll usually let you. Have seen some amazing arrivals into ANC from the middle seat of a 777/MD11/747, etc. Depending on the length of flight there's usually catering. Don't mistakenly eat the Capt's meal. Don't ask me how I know. Then there was that one time where the Capt introduced himself as an F-14 pilot with x amount of carrier landings (no joke). The first time I went through either SDF or MEM the Capt gave me the tour of the Ops center and who to talk to and where the quiet rooms were. If you can make the logisitics and schedule work, it can be a far better experience than the pax carrier (well, except for that bench seat on the 757. Ooof.) FDX JS Finder: http://www2.alpa.org/fdx/jumpseat/ UPS JS Finder: http://inside.ipapilot.org/tools/jumpseats/index.php |
This is great gouge. Thank you.
I'm sure I'll bump into you someday; when that day comes, first round's on me.
Originally Posted by TallFlyer
(Post 1975928)
Depends on the company and airframe. Of the ones I've been on:
FedEx 757: Two cockpit jumpseats, one bench for two closer to the door. The bench is REALLY tight FedEx MD11: 2 cockpit jumpseats, 2-4 Business class seats in the back. Padded cots for the floor for crew rest. FedEx 777: 2 cockpit jumpseats 4 business class seats, 2 bunks. FedEx A300: 2 cockpit jumpseats, 4 FA style fold down seats aft. UPS 767: 1 Cockpit jumpseat, 3 FA style fold down seats on aft cockpit bulkhead, one right next to the lav. UPS MD11: Same as FedEx UPS 747: 2 Cockpit jumpseats, 6-12 business class seats on the upper deck (depends on if it's a -F or -BCF), 2 bunks. Priority for the bunks is usually: - Operating crew for 3 man crews - Online JS - Offline JS. I've not been on any supplemental 747s for a flight, but I'm 98% sure the configuration will be the same. As I recall: -FedEx you can book a guaranteed seat up to 24 hours in advance of departure time for each leg. Call ahead to cancel if need be. DO NOT NO SHOW or you could get your company blacklisted. Casual attire (i.e. jeans) permitted. -UPS you can book up to ten days in advance but can be bumped by UPS pilots up until boarding. Business casual or better, or uniform. 99% of the crews have been top notch and very friendly. If you want to sit up front, they'll usually let you. Have seen some amazing arrivals into ANC from the middle seat of a 777/MD11/747, etc. Depending on the length of flight there's usually catering. Don't mistakenly eat the Capt's meal. Don't ask me how I know. Then there was that one time where the Capt introduced himself as an F-14 pilot with x amount of carrier landings (no joke). The first time I went through either SDF or MEM the Capt gave me the tour of the Ops center and who to talk to and where the quiet rooms were. If you can make the logisitics and schedule work, it can be a far better experience than the pax carrier (well, except for that bench seat on the 757. Ooof.) FDX JS Finder: Jumpseat Finder UPS JS Finder: The Independent Pilots Association |
Ridden Atlas air three times (interestingly it was the same N# all three times). Once from Hong Kong to Anchorage, and twice from Luxembourg to Huntsville. A VERY, VERY nice way to travel IMHO and highly recommend considering using them. The crews have all been great. Every time I have ridden they have an abundance of food stocked (the crew will show you how to heat the food up if you don't know). All three times they had three person crew, so I ended up getting one of the two bunks all to myself while the crew rotated through the other bunk. The configuration was four older style first class seats and then the two bunks behind them. Rode up front for takeoff and landing just because I wanted to see it from the cockpit of the whale, but you can ride in the regular seats.
Do not know how it is for most other airports, but in HKG and LUX you meet the crew at the passenger terminal. The paperwork will have your name and information on it and they will tell you where to meet the crew and what time. In HKG it was at the central information desk, in LUX it was right by security. After verifying your ID/Passport, you are escorted through security and and taken to the crew van for the ride over to the cargo area. Suitcase was left by the aircraft stairs with the rest of the crew luggage and it gets loaded down below, so you don't have to haul it all the way up to the upper deck. Anyway, Atlas is a great option and I have always enjoyed using them. |
Wow! Thanks guys! I'm going to echo what some have already said: this is a great thread. As a new guy to the 121 world I find the links especially useful. However, also as a new guy I somehow need to make enough time to use these benefits...
Side note: I'm wanting to take mommy dearest somewhere for her birthday. Guess I'm limited to the airlines though and getting creative to see where seats are available. I see scenes from the movie Vacation flashing before me :/ |
Originally Posted by TallFlyer
(Post 1975928)
Depends on the company and airframe. Of the ones I've been on:
FedEx 757: Two cockpit jumpseats, one bench for two closer to the door. The bench is REALLY tight FedEx MD11: 2 cockpit jumpseats, 2-4 Business class seats in the back. Padded cots for the floor for crew rest. FedEx 777: 2 cockpit jumpseats 4 business class seats, 2 bunks. FedEx A300: 2 cockpit jumpseats, 4 FA style fold down seats aft. UPS 767: 1 Cockpit jumpseat, 3 FA style fold down seats on aft cockpit bulkhead, one right next to the lav. UPS MD11: Same as FedEx UPS 747: 2 Cockpit jumpseats, 6-12 business class seats on the upper deck (depends on if it's a -F or -BCF), 2 bunks. Priority for the bunks is usually: - Operating crew for 3 man crews - Online JS - Offline JS. I've not been on any supplemental 747s for a flight, but I'm 98% sure the configuration will be the same. As I recall: -FedEx you can book a guaranteed seat up to 24 hours in advance of departure time for each leg. Call ahead to cancel if need be. DO NOT NO SHOW or you could get your company blacklisted. Casual attire (i.e. jeans) permitted. -UPS you can book up to ten days in advance but can be bumped by UPS pilots up until boarding. Business casual or better, or uniform. 99% of the crews have been top notch and very friendly. If you want to sit up front, they'll usually let you. Have seen some amazing arrivals into ANC from the middle seat of a 777/MD11/747, etc. Depending on the length of flight there's usually catering. Don't mistakenly eat the Capt's meal. Don't ask me how I know. Then there was that one time where the Capt introduced himself as an F-14 pilot with x amount of carrier landings (no joke). The first time I went through either SDF or MEM the Capt gave me the tour of the Ops center and who to talk to and where the quiet rooms were. If you can make the logisitics and schedule work, it can be a far better experience than the pax carrier (well, except for that bench seat on the 757. Ooof.) FDX JS Finder: Jumpseat Finder UPS JS Finder: The Independent Pilots Association |
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