RAH: Is the vote going to pass?
 

Or do we need to start thinking about planning for potential work action / bankruptcy / looking for a new job

You are implying that if it passes bankruptcy if off the table

Fair point. Although I think we would all agree that the risk of bankruptcy is greater if it doesn't pass.

First airline?

Well... If this new contract costs them more money, but solves there staffing problems it seems they still might be headed for bankruptcy for the purpose of gutting other contracts and reorganizing the business plan. I'm an outsider observing Republics situation and it looks very similar to some other FFD who have filed in the past decade

Yes my first.. in hindsight should have picked somewhere with a bit more stability, even if I have to commute.

Still, I'm optimistic that if they vote gets passed. Talking to some of my co-workers it does seem to be the consensus view that people will vote in favor.

I must say that I have seen more "vote yes" messages written in the usual places in the flight deck. 2 years ago "vote no" is all I saw.

Haven't seen a single one...

Blue Team or Red?

Everybody I talked to is a yes voter.

I've talked to 3 no-voters. The rest are yes (which was probably another 20, at least). It will pass.

Blue Team. I just did a United trip and even saw it in one of the new 175s.

The eleventh hour is upon us......

Passed. 76% yes. 90% voted

Thanks to all my RAH brethren! Now let's move forward and make it a great company again!

What did first year pay go to in this deal?

Maybe I'm out of the loop, but does the contract say anything about the Cseries?

$40.00/hr topping out around 53

With the same management ? Hahahah

No it does not. They will be operated by Republic. Cheapest labor in the 130 seat market. Management got one over again.

Anything concerning cancellation pay?

Yes. Leg by leg.

It doesn't say anything because they will never turn a wheel

But there are orders for them. Seems short sighted to not have payrates for something that the company has committed to. If they aren't going to be on property company could have put whatever payrates they wanted on paper. As it stands it's set up to be decided by arbitration. How did that work out for the Q400 as a jet, or the other time it wasn't a jet, or the time the seat in the 190 wasn't actually a seat? See what I'm getting at?

Oh I know I was there for all of that mess.....but RAH will never again be anything more than a feeder airline. the C series will never see the light of day at RAH

That's a valid point but realistically we will never fly those. If we do start flying them we have bigger problems in the industry than whether we have a current rate for them or not. Also you'll never find a perfect contract. If you vote no for every minor issue you find you'd never vote yes. You have to weigh the pros and cons. There are certainly cons in this, but the pros outweighed the cons.


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NEVER say NEVER......

What happened on the UAL mid term ESOP vote in the 90's?

Pilots have crappy memories, as well proven to be greedy.

"Scope scope scope!!!!!!! Oh, look at that money they're offering!!!!!"

Republic can do FFD in the US for a foreign carrier like Norwegian (a company that already contracts out very significant portions of their operation and has tried desperately to break into the US). This will give them a VERY cheap way to do that. This was an opportunity to make management pay a fair rate...even if it was just on paper.

Ultimately there is no reason for a mainline carrier to want a 130 seat C Series aircraft in the current market. I could understand the 100 seat version but not the 130.

For sure. Good points. All you had to do was fool a large portion of "Loon" ies and boom...you have a ratified TA. They'll be flying 130 people around for $7 more than the 190 rates.

And E.S. will commute to the furthest outstation possible because God knows he won't get hired anywhere else.

My post wasn't so much about the RAH group as it was the UCH group having it brought up that a contract extension is on the table with certain items to be discussed.

DESPITE being told that scope ISN'T one of the items....

Y'all are just looking for reason to be upset......get it together. The fact that the Cseries is even in your thinking proves your grasping at straws.

Your going to be dissapointed there John. Your hatred is misplaced.

You're*


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But you're right.


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If you're reading it as "hatred", you're reading it wrong..........

But history isn't really on your side of that argument.

Republic Airways’ Pilots Approve Labor Contra
 

Republic Airways’ Pilots Approve Labor Contract

Pact with 2,100 pilots expected to help the company’s business restructuring

Oct. 27, 2015 2:24 p.m. ET
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Regional carrier Republic Airways Holdings Inc., which warned over the summer that it could be forced to file for bankruptcy-court protection if it couldn’t solve its pressing pilot hiring and retention challenges, said Tuesday that a majority of its 2,100 aviators approved a new three-year labor contract that significantly raises pay and improves work rules.
The pact, which will go into effect in a few days, will succeed the current contract, which hadn’t been updated in eight years. The new deal lifts starting first-officer pay to $40 an hour, raises pay for other first officers and boosts captain pay. Indianapolis-based Republic said it would invest about $50 million a year over the three-year duration of the new contract, including signing bonuses and anniversary bonuses. This improved pay is expected to help Republic stem the loss of pilots to other airlines and revive its recruitment pipeline.
“The new contract recognizes the importance of our pilots in our future success and gives us a strong foundation on which to rebuild our operations and move forward with the restructuring of our airline,” said Matt Koscal, Republic’s vice president of human resources. Because it lacked enough pilots, Republic hasn’t been able to meet its contractual schedules for its major airline customers, American Airlines Group Inc., United Continental Holdings Inc., and Delta Air Lines Inc.
The International Brotherhood of Teamsters, which represents the Republic pilots, said its members “have more than earned this industry-leading contract,” according to Capt. David Bourne, director of the airline division of the union. About 90% of the eligible pilots participated in the vote, with 1,363 votes in favor and 421 against, the union said.
Earlier this year, American, United and Delta had allowed Republic to reduce its schedules. But Delta earlier this month sued Republic for breach of contract and recovery of damages for allegedly forcing Delta to cancel flights and preventing it from scheduling flights it otherwise would have scheduled. The suit was filed in Superior Court of Fulton County, Ga. Shortly afterward, Republic said it was aware of the complaint, denied it was in breach of Delta’s agreement, but declined to comment further.
Mr. Koscal, Republic’s human resources chief, said the company still has many challenges to overcome to achieve a successful restructuring of the regional airline. But the new pilot contract “helps move this process forward,” he said.
Write to Susan Carey at [email protected]
http://www.wsj.com/articles/republic-airways-pilots-approve-labor-contract-1445970253

However we have learned from our past mistakes. So history IS NOT doomed to repeat its self

What are the tradeoffs. Ive heard the high rates offset loss of soft credit and higher health ins. Does anyone know the negatives of this contract?

Absolute statements are in the same realm as "never say never".

Well you're source is wrong.

100% Leg-by-leg cancellation pay
1:4 Trip Rig
1:2 Duty Rig
4:12 Min Day

Health caps at 25 or 35% depending on which insurance and the HDHP is frozen for 2 years and is limited to a 10% annual increase after this period. I believe our traditional plan is also limited to a 10% increase YOY.

All protections the old CBA didn't have.


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