LOL, Sky!!! I'd like to see that AND charge admission. I think some of the "boys" around here are fresh and need a spankin'. That IS what you were referring to when you said you'd "beat all their asses," right? :p ;) :D

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I apologize for the confusion. While I have always heard that 2 drinks an hour will get ya Rutgers says it's four.

"Four drinks taken within one hour will generally give an average male (150-175 lbs.) a maximum BAC of .09%."

That quote is from the rutgers medical department. And that was after a simple search on google. I would love to see the documentation that 17 beers wont get you drunk.

They need something Wild! I wonder what they'd like served with their humble pie after they take me up on my parking challenge? :rolleyes:

Speaking of drinking, it's Super Bowl Sunday, and I certainly hope that all of you are wise enough not to drink and drive. A cab ride home is a helluva lot cheaper than a DUI - besides real men don't drive drunk. While ya'all are working on tomorrow's hangover, I'll be watching the Queen Mary sail under the Golden Gate Bridge and float around the Bay before docking at the pier. Be safe out there today!

that is why idiots like you don't hold office

I don't remember my scores but I too learned in SF. My dad made us pass HIS test before the official DMV test. I learned in a 1968 Chevy suburban with "3 on the tree." I remember the back uphill parallel parking maneuver. Good for the clutch. As long as we use your car, I'll see your challenge. ;)

Figures that only a Bay Area raised guy would rise to my challenge. Mike , the next time you're in the Bay Area, let's go to the parking challenge! - and with my clutch and transmission! It might be a bit rough for those raised in suburban areas with wide flat streets.

Watched the Queen Mary sail under the Golden Gate, fireboats a'firing before her entrance. Beautiful warm day here by the Bay - the only drawback to my new pad - two words - seagull poop! My car's paint job feels the pain of the paint-peeling poop. The wake of the ship made them fly off in V-formation and they pooped on my car.

How would drunk drivers be executed in your world? Lynching? Stoning? Crucifixion? I'm sorry about your friend, but if everyone who ever made a mistake were put to death, it would be a pretty lonely world indeed. You need to peek outside your burka once in awhile.

hahaha, only IDIOTS DRIVE DRUNK DUMB AS*

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http://www.drug-rehabs.org/content.p...tate=Louisiana

http://www.topix.net/forum/city/fish...KH3BM06VVLEJOL

http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/194996

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=News&id=279700

http://news.netscape.com/story/2007/...ed-18-year-old

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...7/MN124936.DTL

Airsupport.. Please take a deep breath and calm down. Obviously you're new here and don't realize that HMP loves to goad people and call them all sorts of nasty names. It's best if you just ignore her. I'm sure she gets off on getting people riled up. Sad, but true.

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Listen it is a terrible thing that people get hurt when someone makes the mistake of hopping behind the wheel after a few too many.

But my goodness, i dont care how close to home it hits Airsupport, pure ignorance is when people go overboard with outlandish mentalities like yours. "should be put to death!!!"....are you friggin kiddin me.

since we should start puttin to death someone who drinks and drives why dont we start putting to death anyone who gets into an accident who was talking on their phone while driving putting make up on shaving etc. while we are at is anyone who steals or commits adultery should also go, those are horrible things human beings do.

whether you are just riled up and feel passionate about this is one thing, but people like you with such an extremist overboard mentality scare me way more than someone who hops behind a wheel after a few too many.

i am behind HMP on this one and say this is why people like you shouldnt hold office, its that mentality that has gotten us into the mess this country is in.

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a murderer is someone that goes out with the full blown intention of taking a human life. someone who is drunk lacks the better judgement to know what they are getting themselves into.

alcoholism is a disease. so for the guy/gal whose life is controlled by this substance they go about life without much thought as to the negatives that come with their actions. imagine someone just lost their loved one to cancer or something else. in a rut they go to the local tavern to attempt to drink away their sadness, already not a good idea but thats life. they are so consumed with their own self pity they arent thinking about their actions and consequences. they drive home and something happens. that person made a huge mistake they are not a murderer. these people need help not the death sentence.

dont blow all these responses out of context and make it seem like people are here saying drinking and driving is ok, hands down its not you cant argue that. but get off your high horse and understand that people are humans, and whether you are such a great person that you would never make that kind of mistake not everyone is as holy as you are.

Airsupport, I bet you're tired after walking down from Mount Sinai carrying those heavy tablets. What's it like to know everything? Having a pal get hit by a drunk gives you some sort of right to pontificate?

So. You're a CRJ FO. Have you ever talked about something not related to the flight on the taxi to the runway? OOPPPPS, I didn't pay attention, didn't think it was important, now I'm off the end of the wrong runway and everyone else on board is dead. So, should they execute the Comair CRJ FO? After all, he disregarded basic cockpit procedures, flouted the FARs, I assume this was his "choice", right? That's not very PC, and BTW (everybody) it's not the way I really feel about Louisville, just trying to make a point. Things happen and we all learn from them if we don't have our heads up & locked.

I guess Airsupport knows what he's talking about, ALL THE TIME, so he doesn't have the **** once in awhile? Somehow in his vast experience in aviation and the world he's earned the right to tell all of US to ****? Is his blissful state of personal perfection the reason why he doesn't have to THINK about anything?

I've flown with folks like you, you've got everything figured out and nobody can tell you anything. Your captain might tell you, "Hey, why don't you **** until we get to the taxiway so we don't takeoff on the wrong runway"? I suppose if you heard that, you'd probably think your captain was being a jerk, after all, we're all human, right? Of course, if you ever make captain, and tell your FOs something like that, they'd better listen to you because YOU are YOU which means you are RIGHT, right?

Meanwhile, you can subject everybody to your black & white view of everything, mandatory sentences and screw anyone who shows a trace of being human. Welcome to the Taliban!

Airsupport, enjoy your career of never deviating from absolute perfection, by "choice" or otherwise. When you turn 60 (or 65) and look back, you can pat yourself on the back. Until then, give us all a break.

I guess the majority of Americans think that DUI is a sign that someone should never be placed in a position of responsibility. That's why they elected George W. Bush (convicted of DUI) and Dick Cheney (convicted of TWO DUIs), not to mention Ted Kennedy.

Oh, and next time you talk on a cellphone or change radio stations on the road, think about your little suggestion for mandatory death sentences, they ought to apply to those distractions if statistics are correct.

Sorry for the long post everyone, but this guy is a loon, and in my humble opinion either needs his attitude checked, or maybe a different career.

I hear they're looking for a new mayor in Jonestown.

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Ok you guys win. i guess i am just crazy to think that drunk driving is something that can be avoided 100% of the time. Well i can say that i will never drive drunk. i drink responsably. not saying i know everything but your personal attacks prove my point. you guys are more concerned about protecting the criminal instead of the victim. oh well i cant win all my debates. i just have to choose my battles and obviously this is one i will lose on this board.

Geez, Airsupport is uptight. Does anybody know his CP's phone number? There is definitely potential human factors at work here. Any armchair psychologist can see he has deep-seated trauma associated with DUI, and I'm pretty sure he won't be 100% focused at work or in his personal life until he finds some outlet other than spewing word-salad (look it up) into an aviation forum.

Take a long draw from the Kool-Aid bucket, pal. Find a treadmill. Do Do some needlepoint. Or, I'm sure you're well stocked with Vaseline & Kleenex, whatever gets you through the day.

Just please, breathe into a bag for awhile before you climb into a cockpit (or behind a wheel), in the interest of safety.

haha, uptight. you don't even know me yet you are starting with the personal attacks? guess you can only pick on people on the internet since you are probably not big enough to do it in real life. i am a very good pilot, i am not stressed out, i enjoy my job, and have been flying for 10 years now. like i said before i guess this is one i cant win here, sorry i think that drunk driving is 100% preventable, i guess that would be just to much to ask.

I can tell you now that I will never drink and drive. Can I tell you that I never did, absolutely not. When I was a few years younger and a little less sensible I didn't give much thought to the decision I was making. Luckily I never got into an accident or got caught doing it. Was I lucky, you bet your life I was. it is very sad about your friends condition my deepest sympathies goes out to his circumstance. unfortunately life isn't fair, easy for me to say that since myself or no one i know has dealt with anything like that, but its the unfortunate reality of the world we live in. your friend paid the price for someone else's mistake and now has to deal with that everyday, definitely not fair. but many more unjust things are going on in this world. iraqi civilians are dying every day because a war they didnt ask for is being fought. surely you are at least slightly familiar with the situation in Sudan. all of these things exemplify how unfair life is. hopefully your friend can turn his tragedy into triumph and find meaning for it all. i am a true believer that everything happens for a reason.

and for your last comment about it rarely killing the person infected, another very ignorant comment. problem is the media chooses to only tell the stories of the drunk guy who hit and killed somebody. they seem to gloss over the stories of the drunk guy who was speeding home and wrapped his car around a pole and died.

I guess asking you to chill a few moments before you pop a vein is too much.

like you said, lots of people get away with it. all of those stories i posted, all of the drunk people survived, while the families died. statistics show that to be true. my friend is doing fine and like you said he is trying to make things the best he can. maybe all things do happen for a reason, but hopefully we can prevent as much pain and suffering as we can personally.

dont worry man i am chilled, just sitting in my hotel room, watching the family guy marathon and chatting on here and with my wife. life is good, you just need to learn how to have a respectable argument if you are going to ever make it in this business.

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This thread started out by having a good discussion on the effect of a DUI on a pilot's career. It has slowly evolved into a shouting match that includes personal attacks. Everyone, please review APC's TOS. Keep it clean and professional. Time to move on.