RAH 145 or 175?
 

So I have a class date with Republic for Jan 6 in the 175. HR calls me yesterday and says that they are now offering a $20,000 signing bonus in the 145 since I have previous 145 experience. I was looking forward to flying the 175 but the 20 grand is very appealing too. Anyone on the inside who can offer some insight?

What are the conditions to the 20k? Is it paid upfront or over the course of a year(or more)? Will RAH be flying the 145 in a year? If the fleet is parked and you're swapped into the 175, will you still get the 20k?

I'd find all that out first. Call HR back and see if they'll send you the terms to the bonus.

What airline do you work for where Republic seems like the best place to jump ship to?

On the 145 you will be on reserve for the foreseeable future. 175 possibly as short as 5 months.

I'm guessing either TSA or XJT......the ONLY 145 operators...for now....and I'm also surprised RAH can afford the 20K plus 40K+ first year pay.....

Word has it that they're hiring into the 145 because there aren't enough slots in training for the 170 and they want people to come in. Therefore, if you take the 145, you'll get a great bonus and you'll come to the 170 as soon as they park the 170. If you're a commuter, this might not be a good choice since you'll be on reserve for quite a while on the 145.

I thought they were offering only $12,500.00 bonus for the 145


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I'm currently at ExpressJet. I've been here almost 2 years and I'm tired of reserve and the empty promises from management.

I'm leaning toward the 175. I don't know if the extra bonus money is worth sitting on reserve for an extended period of time.

Yeah, it was $12,500 but I got a call yesterday and an email today that they raised it to $20,000 for the 145.

If you get the full 20k by the completion of IOE, I would go for it. Any longer and I would stick to the 175. As you said before, if you are sick of reserve, the 145 might not be a good idea anyway.

The 20k signing bonus is being offered to better their case in deltas lawsuit. They have to make an effort to recruit for the 145 in order to show the court the staffing issue is not their fault. The plan is to park all 145s by may 16th I believe. If you don't mind training, take the 20k with the expectation you'll be in a 170 class a few months later.

Today they can afford it. Tomorrow they may not be able to afford it. Bedford has been fairly upfront about this. Bk is still an option.

I've flown both the 145 and the 170.. Hands down take the 170. I got to where I am now because of my 170 time. The CRJ200 turns more heads than the worthless 145.

Wouldn't the 175 be a better choice as it is the newer, more desirable airplane?

Newer, more desirable airplanes don't put food on my wife's table.

After you take the job and quit your current job is when they inform you about the mistake they made. Oops sorry but something is better than nothing.

No. Why would you do that. You need to head to your doctor and get checked for sjs.

Actually just got a called from HR asking if I was interested in the 145 $12,500 bonus. I refuse it and asked to stay with the 175. I guess they ask if you want to do it... You can say no.


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The better choice would be the one that pays you more and offers the best QOL. I'll fly a 152 for the rest of my life if the offer's right.

I bet they would if you were able to fly them. ;)

The other guy was offered 20k.

Good to see at least some people have their head in the right place.

Go to republic collect 20k, quit after a year, then come to commutair and collect another 15k. :D

Because he said he had prior 145 time...

No they are not. Via operates 145's pt 135, soon to be 121. Another company, who's name is escaping me, operates 145's pt 135 as well as a few pt 135 135 operators. Saw at least two pt 135 135's based out of Fort Lauderdale Exec while I was down there in November.

40/hr plus 20k signing bonus? Wow!

My mistake, it was 12,500 when I did the interview.
15,000 current offer for initial and 20,000 if you have a 145 type.


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I'd do the 175... It's a lovely airplane I'm sure they'll park the 145 eventually and it's rumored to be soon. You could also take a look at Compass if you haven't already [emoji4]


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Who cares about what plane they fly? Some of you would leave 20 grand on the table so you get to fly a 175 sooner? What is wrong with some of you?!

Depending on the fate of the 145 you could be on reserve in jfk or Lga for a very long time. 20k bonus would put first year pay north of 60k.

RAH 145 vs 175? The answer is simple, neither. Go elsewhere. Better QOL, upgrade times, work rules, culture, and I'm sure pay will catch up too at pretty much any other regional. (If you live in IND, then disregard)

Fixed it for you. I almost have enough people junior to me to make me a line-holder in CMH and I haven't finished training yet.

Your comment is amusing. And WHERE are you now oh lonely wise mexican?

Are you really as uninformed as your post suggests?
Or did you bust the interview?

To the O.P.: where do you live? If you take the 145, you'll most likely be based in NYC. As far as the 145 goes, I'll believe its demise when i see it. IOW, never mind the trolls.

I hate to feed trolls, but something needed to be said about this baseless post.

QOL is relative- some people might say an extra 20k in your pocket is worth the commute. Personally being a commuter, I would probably give up 20k to be able to drive to work. With that said, next on my list of QOL preferences is days off. This new contract has given me 2-3 more days off a month.

Upgrade times are always changing- sure RAH doesn't have the quickest upgrade, but to have quick upgrades you need people leaving off the top and people coming in the door. There has been a steady stream of people leaving (granted some FO's) and this new contract has created some buzz and has put people in new hire classes. It remains to be seen how it plays out, but it's always better to be on the front end of a wave than to try and get on the train when it has already passed.

Work rules are now at least at the top of the regional industry as far as trip/duty rigs, cancellation pay, as well as other things. We'll see how SAP is implemented, but that could be a nice QOL boost as well.

Culture still has some stuff left to be desired. You're always going to have the people who (rightly so) don't trust this management after being jerked around for 8 years and BB is never going to fess or take the blame for things that happened in the past. It's a publicly traded company and the employees are more often than not going to feel like their in the dark on most "plans". Take that for what it's worth.

Pay at other regionals is the only thing I hope you're right about. It would be great to see RAH as the bottom feeder again tomorrow so we can either price the regionals out of existence or actually get paid what we're worth ($40/hour plus $20k signing bonus is getting close to a good starting yearly salary).

But to the OP- as others have said, you're going to need to make your decision based on if 20k is worth it to get based in NYC on reserve for an unknown amount of time.

I have yet to meet anyone that I've talked to at the majors who have said a single thing about the type of plane you're flying impact anything along the lines of potential jobs. Proof of this is a 26 year old street hire at American who flew 1900s for lakes and still got picked up. If you think that you're more desirable because you fly a big shiny jet with engines under the wing vs any other jet/turboprop you are sadly mistaken.

This is why message boards suck, you have a few Kool-Aid drinkers calling you a troll because your opinion is different than theirs. I remember that back in Feb I made a reply telling all the chicken little posters that the 145 was NOT going away in 2 months. I was just as correct then as I am now.

QOL is subjective yes. That's why I said if you live in IND then disregard the negatives. And Loon, we all know you are SDF 145, just remember you are the EXCEPTION not the rule. Most people aren't that lucky. But, unlike many of the negative posters on this board I'm not attacking you for it, just pointing out facts.

Upgrade times are still one of the longest, and we all know they change on a dime. It could drop to two years if they can staff it. Or it could go back to 7 if they can't. Again what I said was true when you look at PSA TSA Compass ect all at sub 2 year upgrades.

I think we all agree on culture, moving on.

Work Rules, I don't like them, it's my opinion. Everyone is different, how is it baseless or trolling to think rules are better elsewhere?

Pay: It's not bad, and considering you get that pay AND a bonus, that's nice, but you gotta believe SkyWest and the rest will match it soon as RAH starts stealing their candidates. And that's BASICALLY what I said without going into that much boring detail.

Now please don't bring the flamethrowers out, it's just waste of time.

Ok, to give some more information.... I live in Cincinnati so I'd much prefer to be CMH based, although IND would work too. Quality of life is very important to me. So much so that I would rather take the smaller bonus and the 175 to be CMH based than take the larger bonus and have to commute. Also, at express jet, I've been on reserve for almost two years so I'd really like to hold a line.

From previous posts, it sounds like if I'd take the 145, I wouldn't be CMH based and be on reserve for a while. If those both are true, then I'd take the 175 and smaller bonus.

CptGSXR, I can agree to disagree with you on most of the stuff you said. Thank you for the more detailed response because when you just write short negative responses without backing it up, that's when you're venturing into troll territory. I am no way an RAH kool-aid drinker, but I think we are pulling ourselves out of the dumpster fire we were in since 2003. I think at least 76% of us want to move on and make this an attractive place to work so we can get out to greener pastures as soon as possible. No disrespect to our former NC as I think they did a great job getting us most of the way to the contract we wanted. Unfortunately we hit a major roadblock with the NMB.

I am in no way selling my airline or talking down on RAH with this post, but do you realize PSA is opening a base in CVG? After commuting and living in base, nothing beats a 20 minute drive to the airport.

How do you get Newark 175? Shuttle or republic?