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Generalaviator1 12-18-2015 02:32 PM

Commuting out of Atlanta
 
Let's say that you live in Atlanta but don't end up flying for ExpressJet. What Regional would be best to work for? How easy would commuting be, considering the slew of flights out of ATL going everywhere..

I'm sure QOL while commuting can never be something to smile about though, right? Even with ample flights to list on...

BobJenkins 12-18-2015 02:39 PM

Lots of flights out of ATL, to be sure. But consider that you would be the very last guy on the bump list, competing with every other pilot who commutes thru ATL. Perhaps some of the folks on the inside with visibility on daily flights and stby lists can help here.

prex8390 12-18-2015 02:52 PM

Delta in and out of Atlanta is generally a night mare. Or so I hear.

Waitingformins 12-18-2015 03:00 PM

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24Whiskey 12-18-2015 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2030541)
Delta in and out of Atlanta is generally a night mare. Or so I hear.

Good luck commuting between any of the hubs. You usually have a list of 5-15 nonrevs with hire dates decades before your birthday on a flight oversold by 10.

I exaggerate, of course. I've never tried myself but when I try to use it as a plan B or a way to get home earlier I can never get on a flight from Detroit.

GoHomeLeg 12-18-2015 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by 24Whiskey (Post 2030548)
Good luck commuting between any of the hubs. You usually have a list of 5-15 nonrevs with hire dates decades before your birthday on a flight oversold by 10.

I exaggerate, of course. I've never tried myself but when I try to use it as a plan B or a way to get home earlier I can never get on a flight from Detroit.

Just need to get creative. 2 leg it through an outstation that serves both airports. 60% of the time it works everytime.

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PA31 12-18-2015 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Generalaviator1 (Post 2030523)
Let's say that you live in Atlanta but don't end up flying for ExpressJet. What Regional would be best to work for? How easy would commuting be, considering the slew of flights out of ATL going everywhere..

I'm sure QOL while commuting can never be something to smile about though, right? Even with ample flights to list on...

There's 29 daily flights from ATL to ORD on multiple airlines. I'd go with someone with a ORD base that flies several of those daily flights like SkyW.

BobJenkins 12-18-2015 03:48 PM

This will show you flights, but no info on who may beat you out as far as seniority goes:

Flight Schedules

Oma4545 12-18-2015 05:59 PM

I'll never forget being number 120 out of 160 non revs for an ATL-DTW flight.

mexipilot84 12-18-2015 06:16 PM

IAH can be difficult so can DFW

iFlyRC 12-18-2015 06:35 PM

If you go to Mesa, get the Ejet, you can easily fly on your own metal to IAH

Farmlover 12-18-2015 07:31 PM

Endeavor and make 50k. Tons of atl dtw flights. Can even commute in during your rsv period.

Generalaviator1 12-18-2015 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by Farmlover (Post 2030686)
Endeavor and make 50k. Tons of atl dtw flights. Can even commute in during your rsv period.

During reserve period? How is that supposed to work on short call

Privateer 12-18-2015 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Generalaviator1 (Post 2030702)
During reserve period? How is that supposed to work on short call

It does not, unless you were hanging out in ATL in full uniform ready to go in order to make the two hour call out.

Cappo 12-18-2015 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by Generalaviator1 (Post 2030523)
Let's say that you live in Atlanta but don't end up flying for ExpressJet. What Regional would be best to work for? How easy would commuting be, considering the slew of flights out of ATL going everywhere..



I'm sure QOL while commuting can never be something to smile about though, right? Even with ample flights to list on...


Honestly commuting from Atlanta is a nightmare anywhere you go I think. There's always some crazy stand by lists there.


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Farmlover 12-18-2015 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Generalaviator1 (Post 2030702)
During reserve period? How is that supposed to work on short call

The commute in to base can fall in the call out period as long as you land by your show time

Farmlover 12-18-2015 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Privateer (Post 2030711)
It does not, unless you were hanging out in ATL in full uniform ready to go in order to make the two hour call out.

New loa at endeavor changed that you can land inside your call out period.

Generalaviator1 12-18-2015 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Farmlover (Post 2030730)
The commute in to base can fall in the call out period as long as you land by your show time

That's actually pretty nice. But I still foresee potential issues with actually getting on a flight when its time to go. Too many people to potentially bump you.

Although I have no clue what the demand for other Endeavor or Delta guys trying to jumpseat to MSP/DTW is typically

Gjn290 12-18-2015 10:20 PM

I did the IAH/HOU-ATL commute as a part 135 pilot with CASS for about four months, commuted weekly. Only once did I think I wasn't going to make it, but I did. The worst commute I've heard about is between ATL-DTW. Commuting isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be and will never be as bad as living in a place you hate, just so you can drive.

Gjn290 12-18-2015 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by Farmlover (Post 2030730)
The commute in to base can fall in the call out period as long as you land by your show time

Compass is fine with this too, just call scheduling and let them know.

Generalaviator1 12-18-2015 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by Gjn290 (Post 2030735)
Compass is fine with this too, just call scheduling and let them know.

Good to know

JohnnyDingus 12-19-2015 08:26 AM

Atl to Clt isn't bad


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Laserowner 12-19-2015 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by GoHomeLeg (Post 2030563)
Just need to get creative. 2 leg it through an outstation that serves both airports. 60% of the time it works everytime.

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"60% of the time it works everytime" There is some public math for ya!:D:D:D:

whoareyou311 12-19-2015 12:16 PM

Well if you are commuting out of ATL and are a pilot for Endeavor you are the #2 priority on all Delta mainline flights for the jumpseat...that is a huge perk especially when you are trying to go in and out of hubs. As long as a delta pilot is not listed for the jumpseat you get first dibs!! This has helped me when I was doing the LGA-DTW commute. You just show up and **** off everyone that isn't a Delta pilot! ;)

Generalaviator1 12-19-2015 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by whoareyou311 (Post 2031016)
You just show up and **** off everyone that isn't a Delta pilot! ;)

But that would be mean! :D Of course I guess whatever it takes to stay out of the CPs office..

DL31082 12-20-2015 04:56 AM

Commuting ATL-DTW is horrible. I did it for a couple of years. I've easily been 150 on the standby list. While being #2 in line for the jumpseat is great, it means nothing when every jumpseat is taken by a Delta guy. I would never ever recommend the ATL-DTW commute. I have heard the ATL-LGA commute isn't horrible.

jpso 12-20-2015 05:17 AM

Any insight into ATL-PIT or ATL-EWR?

BobJenkins 12-20-2015 05:26 AM

While we're asking, what about ATL-IAH or ATL-DFW?

wmupilot85 12-20-2015 05:53 AM

And while we're asking, what's wrong with ExpressJet? Living in base is much better than commuting, even if sitting reserve in base.

BobJenkins 12-20-2015 06:03 AM

I don't think anyone here said anything negative about Xjet, at least not that I saw. Living in base certainly seems to be the best option, no matter which company employs you. But sitting in one base may not be as desirable as flying out of another base for some people. Hours mean advancement, sitting on reserve means current pay.


Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2031300)
And while we're asking, what's wrong with ExpressJet? Living in base is much better than commuting, even if sitting reserve in base.


whoareyou311 12-20-2015 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2031300)
And while we're asking, what's wrong with ExpressJet? Living in base is much better than commuting, even if sitting reserve in base.

The question asked was "commuting out of ATL"... but if you want to go there fine...XJT would be a horrible choice. Dying company, no upgrade insight, infinite reserve in ATL, for FO's pay can't even come close to competing with other airlines. The list really can go on.

Silver02ex 12-20-2015 07:54 AM

If you choose Endeavor and pick DTW. Spirit has 2 flights a day from ATL-DTW. IMO, for Spirit, it's easier than trying to get on a the Jumpseat of a Delta or Southwest flight. You can list online and see if there's anyone else listed. Once you list and check in 24 hrs out. The JS is yours, as long as no Spirit Pilot is listed, but if there was you will see them listed (Most of us will not list or show up at the last minute). With Delta and Southwest you don't know who is listed and if they have checked in until you get to the gate. We take many UAL pilots and FA between MSP-ORD for this exact reason.

motormadness 12-20-2015 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 2031344)
If you choose Endeavor and pick DTW. Spirit has 2 flights a day from ATL-DTW. IMO, for Spirit, it's easier than trying to get on a the Jumpseat of a Delta or Southwest flight. You can list online and see if there's anyone else listed. Once you list and check in 24 hrs out. The JS is yours, as long as no Spirit Pilot is listed, but if there was you will see them listed (Most of us will not list or show up at the last minute). With Delta and Southwest you don't know who is listed and if they have checked in until you get to the gate. We take many UAL pilots and FA between MSP-ORD for this exact reason.

Is the T-24 checkin for OAL the official policy for NK? I've heard conflicting information pertaining to that.

Silver02ex 12-20-2015 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by motormadness (Post 2031349)
Is the T-24 checkin for OAL the official policy for NK? I've heard conflicting information pertaining to that.

I just checked our manuals and it is 24 hrs out (check in) from the website or kiosk. You can list 3 days out. We had 2 UAL pilots yesterday going to ORD. One was checked in and the other was not. I asked the agent if it's based on time of checked in or who showed up to the gate first. She said, it's when they checked in online first (because it creates a time stamped) so they know who's first. I see some flights tonight going to ORD and some OAL are already checked in 12 hrs out.

motormadness 12-20-2015 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 2031353)
I just checked our manuals and it is 24 hrs out (check in) from the website or kiosk. You can list 3 days out. We had 2 UAL pilots yesterday going to ORD. One was checked in and the other was not. I asked the agent if it's based on time of checked in or who showed up to the gate first. She said, it's when they checked in online first (because it creates a time stamped) so they know who's first. I see some flights tonight going to ORD and some OAL are already checked in 12 hrs out.

Good to know. Thanks for everything you guys do.

Generalaviator1 12-20-2015 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by wmupilot85 (Post 2031300)
And while we're asking, what's wrong with ExpressJet? Living in base is much better than commuting, even if sitting reserve in base.

Nothing is "wrong with ExpressJet". I happen to like the company and the people there and have spent a good amount of time around A Tech.

I just want to be fully aware of the other good options that are out there, since any regional is liable to experience a rapid change (for better or worse)

azcz10 12-21-2015 03:48 AM

ATL Commute
 
I commuted from ATL-JFK for 9E. I chose JFK because I could use either JFK or LGA. JFK got more and more difficult and I wound up using LGA the majority of the time. This was a few yrs ago but DAL had an hourly nonstop ATL-LGA and only about 6 per day to JFK. We had an ATL base at 9E back then but it was senior and I couldn't hold it.....then it closed.

BeechedJet 12-21-2015 04:01 AM

I have never had an issue going between ATL-MDW/ORD. I've missed one flight but never two in a row in the last 2 years. Southwest seems to always have space.

chrisreedrules 12-21-2015 05:02 AM

CLT wouldn't be too bad from ATL as it is an AA hub and you don't see a lot of delta personnel coming and going from there. PSA has a TYS base that I know is drivable from Atlanta because several pilots do just that.

Just because you live in the base of an airline does not mean you should necessarily just go there. I have nothing against ExpressJet and I have friends there, but even they would tell you to look at other regionals first if career progression is something you desire.


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