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Korean1DR 02-03-2007 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Nightsky (Post 112707)
I walked away from it for four years, then went back. And I'm happier since doing so. This industry has a lot of negatives, no doubt, but the corporate world sucked so much more, at least for me. Your mileage may vary. Good luck!

What about the corporate gig didn't you care for Night?

SkyHigh 02-04-2007 07:02 AM

Mistake
 

Originally Posted by UPSAv8tr (Post 112674)
Skyhigh,

I'm confused. Your post implies one thing but your signature line implies something completely different. Which is it?

I meant to write BFF, or Best Friends Forever. I messed up on the title. :eek:

SkyHigh

UPSAv8tr 02-04-2007 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 112868)
I meant to write BFF, or Best Friends Forever. I messed up on the title. :eek:

SkyHigh

You still didn't answer the question (unless there is some secret meaning to BFF). Is there a pilot shortage or surplus in your eyes?

rubbersidedown 02-04-2007 08:46 AM

Hey I love subway too!!! And free subway would even be better! We all will have our opinions on which direction GA is going, but lets get back to the point at hand here. Should Frieghtdog1 come back to the darkside or not?

Nightsky 02-04-2007 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Korean1DR (Post 112743)
What about the corporate gig didn't you care for Night?


When I say corporate, I didn't mean corporate flying. Sorry for the confusion. I meant the corporate non flying, ie regular "office" job route. 60-70 hour work weeks, the daily grind and commute, and on and on... Made decent money, but I hated every second of it.

mike734 02-04-2007 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Freightdog1 (Post 112278)
I see some things haven't changed:

That's where your wrong. Things have definitely changed. Now-a-days, cargo pilots are the highest paid! Who'd a thunk it? Salaries for the majors is down about 40% and getter worse every day (inflation) Southwest is now the highest paid pax carrier.

I sure I not breaking any news here but you need to consider; this is not your fathers industry anymore. Personally, I think this is the low water mark and things are looking up. I have to believe that cause I don't want to kill myself. Still there is evidence that the long awaited pilot shortage is happening (soon).

Korean1DR 02-04-2007 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 113005)
That's where your wrong. Things have definitely changed. Now-a-days, cargo pilots are the highest paid! Who'd a thunk it? Salaries for the majors is down about 40% and getter worse every day (inflation) Southwest is now the highest paid pax carrier.

I sure I not breaking any news here but you need to consider; this is not your fathers industry anymore. Personally, I think this is the low water mark and things are looking up. I have to believe that cause I don't want to kill myself. Still there is evidence that the long awaited pilot shortage is happening (soon).

Well, this was posted in the majors section... It says there might be hope for us yet...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...i-business-hed

SkyHigh 02-05-2007 06:11 PM

Surplus
 

Originally Posted by UPSAv8tr (Post 112899)
You still didn't answer the question (unless there is some secret meaning to BFF). Is there a pilot shortage or surplus in your eyes?

I think there is a pilot surplus, but a reduction in the amount of pilots who will do the job for postman wages. I am sure that the pay will come back a little but there is an ever constant ratcheting trend downward.

There is a current shortage of carpenters right now as well, but as soon as the pay bumps up a dollar or two an hour applicants suddenly appear. Pilots however seem to adapt to lower expectations and are soon eager to get back flying at the lessor amount.

SkyHigh

mike734 02-05-2007 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 113608)
I think there is a pilot surplus, but a reduction in the amount of pilots who will do the job for postman wages. I am sure that the pay will come back a little but there is an ever constant ratcheting trend downward.

There is a current shortage of carpenters right now as well, but as soon as the pay bumps up a dollar or two an hour applicants suddenly appear. Pilots however seem to adapt to lower expectations and are soon eager to get back flying at the lessor amount.

SkyHigh

I was enjoying the parade but now it is raining. Why are you raining on my parade?

SkyHigh 02-06-2007 05:25 AM

Sorry
 

Originally Posted by mike734 (Post 113621)
I was enjoying the parade but now it is raining. Why are you raining on my parade?

Sorry Mike,

It is a sad truth. I could pick up the phone today and have a dozen qualified pilots ready and eager to take a position with Alaska Airlines (or any other major airline) at the current reduced pay scale.

I also would gladly jump at the chance to put on an Alaska Airlines uniform even thought it would mean a huge pay cut and dimmed future. Flying has a fun factor that is the biggest undermining element to pilot wages and future prospects.


SkyHigh


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