High Airspeeds vs High Climb Rates
12-28-2015, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
Who gives a freak?? I get up as high as I can as fast as I can.I don't give a rats turd about trying to worry about that or saving them a few pennies on fuel.F#$k the profiles,I do what I want as long as its legal.Fly the plane,have fun,F the company and don't worry about it.
12-28-2015, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by iFlyRC
At Mesa, we let a central server calculate our climb speed based on weight, winds, and length of flight, among other things. Most of the time we cruise around .79, and as high as possible.
Another interesting point a Captain made: our airfoil is designed for high subsonic speeds. It excels in this region, even in the climb. He put it at ~320 knots in pitch mode (to avoid oscillations) and it had the same ascent rate you'd get at ~280 but with a lot more horizontal distance covered.
12-29-2015, 06:21 AM
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In NY area they want altitude first. ORD & DFW, they just want you out of their airspace as quickly as possible. CRJ drivers like to go on about how "this wing loves speed", but it's true. The faster you go, the better it climbs. But seriously, who cares about profiles. Go plaid & make that flight home!! Mach tuck be damned!!
12-29-2015, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Lots of guys use that Econ Speed for climb but they were very explicit in AQP that it's only for cruise.
Another interesting point a Captain made: our airfoil is designed for high subsonic speeds. It excels in this region, even in the climb. He put it at ~320 knots in pitch mode (to avoid oscillations) and it had the same ascent rate you'd get at ~280 but with a lot more horizontal distance covered.
Another interesting point a Captain made: our airfoil is designed for high subsonic speeds. It excels in this region, even in the climb. He put it at ~320 knots in pitch mode (to avoid oscillations) and it had the same ascent rate you'd get at ~280 but with a lot more horizontal distance covered.
12-29-2015, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
Who gives a freak?? I get up as high as I can as fast as I can.I don't give a rats turd about trying to worry about that or saving them a few pennies on fuel.F#$k the profiles,I do what I want as long as its legal.Fly the plane,have fun,F the company and don't worry about it.
12-29-2015, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Lots of guys use that Econ Speed for climb but they were very explicit in AQP that it's only for cruise.
Another interesting point a Captain made: our airfoil is designed for high subsonic speeds. It excels in this region, even in the climb. He put it at ~320 knots in pitch mode (to avoid oscillations) and it had the same ascent rate you'd get at ~280 but with a lot more horizontal distance covered.
Another interesting point a Captain made: our airfoil is designed for high subsonic speeds. It excels in this region, even in the climb. He put it at ~320 knots in pitch mode (to avoid oscillations) and it had the same ascent rate you'd get at ~280 but with a lot more horizontal distance covered.
Again, excellent post. That Captain 'gets it'.
12-29-2015, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lakehouse
Yo brah envoy express jet or rah?
Originally Posted by deltajuliet
He put it at ~320 knots in pitch mode (to avoid oscillations) and it had the same ascent rate you'd get at ~280 but with a lot more horizontal distance covered.
12-31-2015, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
Who gives a freak?? I get up as high as I can as fast as I can.I don't give a rats turd about trying to worry about that or saving them a few pennies on fuel.F#$k the profiles,I do what I want as long as its legal.Fly the plane,have fun,F the company and don't worry about it.
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