Alaska to order 30 large RJs in 1st QTR 2016
01-22-2016, 06:27 AM
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Alaska to order 30 large RJs in 1st QTR 2016
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...t-quar-421088/
Alaska to order 30 large regional jets in first quarter 2016
Alaska Air Group expects to place an order for up to 30 large regional jets in the first quarter of 2016, with deliveries expected to begin in 2017.
The new aircraft will likely have about 76-seats and be operated by regional partner Horizon Air, says the Seattle-based carrier's chief financial officer Brandon Pedersen during an earnings call today.
Those aircraft would partly replace capacity lost as Horizon returns 15 leased Bombardier Q400 turboprops in 2018, he says.
“We are in the final phase of a regional jet campaign,” says Pedersen. “Our intent is for those aircraft to be flown by Horizon if their pilots and flight attendants approve changes to their collective bargaining agreements.”
“Voting is taking place now,” he says.
Executives do not say what type of aircraft Horizon is considering except that they plan to outfit them with three service classes.
That would align the new aircraft with Alaska’s Boeing 737s and its Embraer 175s operated by SkyWest Airlines.
Both of those aircraft types have economy and first class cabins but Alaska announced in December 2015 that it will begin installing premium economy seats to both types later this year.
Pedersen and other executives say more large regional aircraft will enable Alaska to continue adding profitable medium-range routes to its network.
Large regional jets have more range than the Q400s, are more comfortable for passengers and have lower trip costs on stages of more than 400 miles, Pedersen says.
“This is an area where we see plenty of room for profitable growth in 2016 and beyond,” adds Alaska's chief commercial officer Andrew Harrison.
New aircraft in the 76-seat range include current-generation models like the Bombardier CRJ900 and E175 and next-generation models like E175-E2 and Mitsubishi MRJ70.
Executives say they are not seriously considering an aircraft with 100 seats – such as Bombardier’s CS100.
“We have thought about it but right now we are moving forward with a 76-seat regional jet at Horizon,” says Pedersen.
Regional partner SkyWest already operates five E175s and eight Bombardier CRJ700s for Alaska.
However, all eight CRJ700s will be removed from service in 2016 and replaced by 10 new E175s, Alaska's fleet plan shows.
Although Alaska intends to begin operating regional jets under its Horizon division, Pedersen insists SkyWest will continue to operate some regional jets for Alaska.
Alaska to order 30 large regional jets in first quarter 2016
Alaska Air Group expects to place an order for up to 30 large regional jets in the first quarter of 2016, with deliveries expected to begin in 2017.
The new aircraft will likely have about 76-seats and be operated by regional partner Horizon Air, says the Seattle-based carrier's chief financial officer Brandon Pedersen during an earnings call today.
Those aircraft would partly replace capacity lost as Horizon returns 15 leased Bombardier Q400 turboprops in 2018, he says.
“We are in the final phase of a regional jet campaign,” says Pedersen. “Our intent is for those aircraft to be flown by Horizon if their pilots and flight attendants approve changes to their collective bargaining agreements.”
“Voting is taking place now,” he says.
Executives do not say what type of aircraft Horizon is considering except that they plan to outfit them with three service classes.
That would align the new aircraft with Alaska’s Boeing 737s and its Embraer 175s operated by SkyWest Airlines.
Both of those aircraft types have economy and first class cabins but Alaska announced in December 2015 that it will begin installing premium economy seats to both types later this year.
Pedersen and other executives say more large regional aircraft will enable Alaska to continue adding profitable medium-range routes to its network.
Large regional jets have more range than the Q400s, are more comfortable for passengers and have lower trip costs on stages of more than 400 miles, Pedersen says.
“This is an area where we see plenty of room for profitable growth in 2016 and beyond,” adds Alaska's chief commercial officer Andrew Harrison.
New aircraft in the 76-seat range include current-generation models like the Bombardier CRJ900 and E175 and next-generation models like E175-E2 and Mitsubishi MRJ70.
Executives say they are not seriously considering an aircraft with 100 seats – such as Bombardier’s CS100.
“We have thought about it but right now we are moving forward with a 76-seat regional jet at Horizon,” says Pedersen.
Regional partner SkyWest already operates five E175s and eight Bombardier CRJ700s for Alaska.
However, all eight CRJ700s will be removed from service in 2016 and replaced by 10 new E175s, Alaska's fleet plan shows.
Although Alaska intends to begin operating regional jets under its Horizon division, Pedersen insists SkyWest will continue to operate some regional jets for Alaska.
01-22-2016, 07:41 AM
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76-seats ?
Hmmmm...........
Sounds to me like they are setting themselves up nicely to codeshare with AA and should further consolidation occur with AA, Alaska and Horizon would be set up quite nicely. Supposedly, They and Delta are having relationship issues and so perhaps intensifying an affair with AAG is in the works ?
Hmmmm...........
Sounds to me like they are setting themselves up nicely to codeshare with AA and should further consolidation occur with AA, Alaska and Horizon would be set up quite nicely. Supposedly, They and Delta are having relationship issues and so perhaps intensifying an affair with AAG is in the works ?
01-22-2016, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyinRabbit88
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The new aircraft will likely have about 76-seats and be operated by regional partner Horizon Air, says the Seattle-based carrier's chief financial officer Brandon Pedersen during an earnings call today.
Those aircraft would partly replace capacity lost as Horizon returns 15 leased Bombardier Q400 turboprops in 2018[/B], he says.
“We have thought about it but right now we are moving forward with a 76-seat regional jet at Horizon,” says Pedersen.
The new aircraft will likely have about 76-seats and be operated by regional partner Horizon Air, says the Seattle-based carrier's chief financial officer Brandon Pedersen during an earnings call today.
Those aircraft would partly replace capacity lost as Horizon returns 15 leased Bombardier Q400 turboprops in 2018[/B], he says.
“We have thought about it but right now we are moving forward with a 76-seat regional jet at Horizon,” says Pedersen.
Yes of course he must add a qualifier about the FA/pilot contracts but this is a done deal in my opinion. Anything they can get above and beyond through concessions from already agreed upon contracts is simply gravy.
01-22-2016, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LineGrinder400
These planes are heading to Horizon period.
Yes of course he must add a qualifier about the FA/pilot contracts but this is a done deal in my opinion. Anything they can get above and beyond through concessions from already agreed upon contracts is simply gravy.
Yes of course he must add a qualifier about the FA/pilot contracts but this is a done deal in my opinion. Anything they can get above and beyond through concessions from already agreed upon contracts is simply gravy.
Sometimes pilots are in such a rush to "help" the company out that we end up on the short end of the stick.
01-22-2016, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
Sometimes pilots are in such a rush to "help" the company out that we end up on the short end of the stick.
Too bad these aren't being added to mainline flying.
01-22-2016, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
I agree with your reasoning. When SkyWest was only flying the 200 and EMB-120, we were told that we needed to fly the 700 at 200 rates or we couldn't get the flying. I think it was THE NEXT DAY after the vote closed when they announced the 700 flying. Rates were already set and they got everyone to buy into the fear to make even more money.
Sometimes pilots are in such a rush to "help" the company out that we end up on the short end of the stick.
Sometimes pilots are in such a rush to "help" the company out that we end up on the short end of the stick.
01-22-2016, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
I agree with your reasoning. When SkyWest was only flying the 200 and EMB-120, we were told that we needed to fly the 700 at 200 rates or we couldn't get the flying. I think it was THE NEXT DAY after the vote closed when they announced the 700 flying. Rates were already set and they got everyone to buy into the fear to make even more money.
Sometimes pilots are in such a rush to "help" the company out that we end up on the short end of the stick.
Sometimes pilots are in such a rush to "help" the company out that we end up on the short end of the stick.
The vote closed 2 hours early and 700s were announced the next morning. Its amazing how fast they hammered out the deal........
So much for dealing aces, when you already have a deck full of jokers(SAPA).
The ultimate destination of those planes is already inked, so concessions are futile and unnecessary, unless you drink the company kool-aid. If they are going to Horizon its decided, if SKYW or elsewhere, remember, economy of scale is the final key to costs, so even if they are flown for 1/2 price by Horizon, SKYW could still do it cheaper. The next big question? Why is SKYW hiring every pilot with a pulse and having them sit at home waiting for IOE sometimes for as long as 9 weeks? Why is the ERJ so overstaffed right now?
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