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Originally Posted by bradthepilot
(Post 2060392)
I was talking with friend this weekend who mentioned that the washout rate for new hires at his regional is on the order of 20% or so. Is this typical across regionals? What are some typical reasons?
I was suprised to hear it if only because it would seem to indicate that either the interview process was flawed or or that they are taking anyone who meets the mins and figuring it out during training/OE. I'm guessing the latter, as a 20% washout rate in any other industry would be seen as wasteful and point to an interview process in dire need of overhaul. Every regional will have a washouts. The interview is not a way to weed people out for the most part. It's more of a formality to see if you'll fit into company culture and if you'll play nice with others and to see if you're a semi smart guy with some airplane knowledge. Some guys just can't handle part 121 pace, they are usually the guys who are making career changes after sitting in a office for 20 years and part time instructing usually just giving the monthly BFR to crop dusters. Those are the guys that struggle. Every industry has a washouts. Mostly comes down to the attitude you wanna bring to training. Wanna goof off and party every day or do you willing to sit down and study every day like its the day before finals for 6-10 weeks? |
Originally Posted by prex8390
(Post 2060469)
Every regional will have a washouts. The interview is not a way to weed people out for the most part. It's more of a formality to see if you'll fit into company culture and if you'll play nice with others and to see if you're a semi smart guy with some airplane knowledge. Some guys just can't handle part 121 pace, they are usually the guys who are making career changes after sitting in a office for 20 years and part time instructing usually just giving the monthly BFR to crop dusters. Those are the guys that struggle. Every industry has a washouts. Mostly comes down to the attitude you wanna bring to training. Wanna goof off and party every day or do you willing to sit down and study every day like its the day before finals for 6-10 weeks?
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Some people who don't make it at one airline move on to other airlines.
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In the past the "typical" washout rate at regionals was about 10%.
But with interviews nowdays doing little or no screening for airline pilot aptitude, 20% actually seems reasonable. I'd probably be worried if it were much less. Not all Cessna SkyGods are airline material (regional or otherwise). |
I think through every training program I've been to at least 2 wash out of the class. Every time it has been those 2 that refuse to cooperate and graduate, or for some crazy reason just can't fly. I remember going through xjt we had this one guy say "well if this was a douches I could fly the hell out of it" of course he washed out and couldn't understand the automation much less the flight director, but man they gave him buku FTDs and still couldn't cut it and blamed the company for his failures and awesome bug smasher skills.
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The overall quality of available bodies seems to have taken a dip as well which leads to higher than normal wash out rates. It's not uncommon for new hires nowadays to require 100+ hours of IOE.
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Originally Posted by Rahlifer
(Post 2060581)
The overall quality of available bodies seems to have taken a dip as well which leads to higher than normal wash out rates. It's not uncommon for new hires nowadays to require 100+ hours of IOE.
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
(Post 2060591)
How is that even possible? Why do companies allow that to happen. A few more hours than required fine, but by 50 hours of OE, if you don't get it, you probably aren't going to get it.
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TWA had 100 hr. IOE's with their F/E to Capt. upgrades.
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