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s10an 02-07-2007 05:16 PM

Lets hope there will be a shortage of CFIs.. Maybe flight schools will be forced to pay better...

SkyHigh 02-08-2007 04:42 AM

Cfi
 
Anyone who spends the money to get a CFI is ill-informed. Today there are more CFI's than there are students. You can wallow as an instructor for years or simply pay the money to ATP and get a real job now.

If you want to teach be a CFI. If you want to be an airline pilot then pay the man and become an airline pilot.

Times have changed. The old CFI route is a waste of time.

SkyHigh

Baronpilot 02-08-2007 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 114768)
Anyone who spends the money to get a CFI is ill-informed. Today there are more CFI's than there are students. You can wallow as an instructor for years or simply pay the money to ATP and get a real job now.

If you want to teach be a CFI. If you want to be an airline pilot then pay the man and become an airline pilot.

Times have changed. The old CFI route is a waste of time.

SkyHigh


I think you might be right if someone is forty years old and doesn't want to screw around. For me though, having the CFI is the fastest way to build flight time and even though it doesn't pay great, at least I'm getting paid instead of paying someone else.

Joachim 02-08-2007 05:00 AM

Gloom and doom
 

Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 114768)
Anyone who spends the money to get a CFI is ill-informed. Today there are more CFI's than there are students. You can wallow as an instructor for years or simply pay the money to ATP and get a real job now.

If you want to teach be a CFI. If you want to be an airline pilot then pay the man and become an airline pilot.

Times have changed. The old CFI route is a waste of time.

SkyHigh

Thats is just gloomy AND incorrect!

Just to name a few; Ari ben, flight safety, flyoft, naples and miami-air are all hungry for fresh CFI's. I spoke to the Ari ben Aviator and EFT chief pilots recently and they are turning down student bc. of lack of instructors. This is a result of the hiring rates at the regionals. instructors on average log 80-100h/mo.

Regards

Ps: Baron you beat me to it!!

JoeyMeatballs 02-08-2007 05:13 AM

I would love to CFI agian, I enjoyed it 121 is great but its a job, nothing in the world like Grass strips $300.00 Burgers and the freedom to go/do whatever you want.

SkyHigh 02-08-2007 05:16 AM

CFI route
 
I am sure that there are examples of places where CFI's are needed, but nationwide it is a dying profession. In the 1970's there were four students for every instructor now the students out number. At a few select flight school I am sure that it is a good option however for most it is a loosing profession.

SKyHigh

DMEarc 02-08-2007 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 114785)
I am sure that there are examples of places where CFI's are needed, but nationwide it is a dying profession. In the 1970's there were four students for every instructor now the students out number. At a few select flight school I am sure that it is a good option however for most it is a loosing profession.

SKyHigh

Why is aviation the only job that you have spend money on for an interview. ATP is not training (The Airline Transition) so therefore I see it as PFJ. You're paying money to skip ahead of much, much, much harder working CFIs so you can get there sooner.

And that is why this is another form of a race to the bottom. I hope you enjoy ruining this profession.


Originally Posted by LAFF

God help us all.

nwa757 02-08-2007 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by Puppyz (Post 114544)
i plan on it! Gonna build up my hours for one of the better companies.

I second that... I commend you. Spread that attitude around!

C152driver 02-08-2007 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by s10an (Post 114566)
Lets hope there will be a shortage of CFIs.. Maybe flight schools will be forced to pay better...

Maybe some of the CFI that are here could chime in about the hiring conditions in their area so we could get some idea of what its really like out there.

I am teaching at a FBO that is currently overwhelmed with CFI's. We have nearly 30 of them, mostly part-timers. However, I think this is due in part to the fact that another large school in the area went out of business last Spring and quite a few of the CFIs from that oepration came here. The hourly pay is $30, so I am sure that is a factor as well.

There are several here that have other careers and would never consider moving to the regional airlines.

I have struggled to find any students. However, I started right at the end of the year last year and was told that there arent many new students starting up during the holidays.

Anyone else care to share whats happening in their area?

flyerNy 02-08-2007 06:46 AM

With these D jets going to places like ATP. Do you think that this type of crap will make it tougher for guys without jet time to get job? Right now all you need is 500 light prop time and 100 multi prop. Will there eventually be 500TT 100ME 50Jet requirement and then everyone will have to now also spend loads of money for crap-jet time? I mean, its hard enough to get multi time....

what does everyone think? could be bad ATP is doing no?


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