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Old 03-14-2016 | 05:12 PM
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If you are one of the people that find most every aspect about the airlines, negative, why don't you leave, start a new career, make a change? I understand some of you need the money, but we all know there is no money in aviation, go do something else.

If you are one of those people that "truly loves aviation," then why do you care about the money so much?

If there is no pilot shortage, why don't you move on?

If the union is screwing you over, why not leave?

If you are bored with 121 flying, why not make a change?

I understand the purpose of this website. The ability to vent, to rip other people, to say whatever you want, and most importantly to complain about your work - it's more or less a necessity. But think of how unproductive it is?

I see all these posts and I always think to myself, "what happened to personal responsibility?" What happened to the drive and motivation to be stimulated, satisfied, and driven in our work? Why are there so many of you contradicting yourselves in so many ways all the time?

You only have one life to live, why spend your time disliking your choices so much? If you made the wrong choice in the past, no big deal, move on and make a better choice today. If you want to fly, fly. If you want to make a million dollars, make am million. If you want to be home every night, be home. Remember with all of your decisions come sacrifice and with all of your sacrifice comes gain.

The next time you are going to post about how terrible your life is or how little money you make, (any other airline complaint for that matter,) put the computer down and take those ten minutes to think about other decisions you might be able to make in your life that might leave you feeling a little more motivated, stimulated, and satisfied.
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Old 03-14-2016 | 05:18 PM
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What I don't understand is why so many people here think they are entitled to something. At some point during the decision to fly and fly for a living, they decided that the world owes them something. That somehow they rank higher in the pecking order over say a janitor or a fast food worker.
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Old 03-14-2016 | 05:24 PM
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Well said , I think the same thing when I see some posts on here . No one made you become a pilot .
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Old 03-14-2016 | 05:27 PM
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Old 03-14-2016 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
What I don't understand is why so many people here think they are entitled to something. At some point during the decision to fly and fly for a living, they decided that the world owes them something. That somehow they rank higher in the pecking order over say a janitor or a fast food worker.
You don't think that a bachelor's degree and years of intensive training should advance you in the pecking order over a fast food worker? A 16 year old high school student is qualified to work at McDonalds. Said student is not qualified to fly an airliner.

In what other career field do workers invest the sort of money we have invested to become qualified and educated and get so little in return?

Have a little pride in your accomplishments and realize that you're worth more than this.
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Old 03-14-2016 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
What I don't understand is why so many people here think they are entitled to something. At some point during the decision to fly and fly for a living, they decided that the world owes them something. That somehow they rank higher in the pecking order over say a janitor or a fast food worker.
When that janitor invests the same amount of time and money into his career that many of us have, then we can talk about "pecking order." I'm sorry if I expect and fight to be compensated properly for my services and SKILLS. Just as I'd expect a doctor to fight to be compensated for his knowledge and skill. Your logic is flawed and it has nothing to do with "entitlement."
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Old 03-14-2016 | 05:32 PM
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When that janitor invests the same amount of time and money into his career that many of us have, then we can talk about "pecking order." I'm sorry if I expect and fight to be compensated properly for my services and SKILLS. Just as I'd expect a doctor to fight to be compensated for his knowledge and skill. Your logic is flawed and it has nothing to do with "entitlement."
Perfect post. Exactly the point I was making.
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Old 03-14-2016 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
What I don't understand is why so many people here think they are entitled to something. At some point during the decision to fly and fly for a living, they decided that the world owes them something. That somehow they rank higher in the pecking order over say a janitor or a fast food worker.
I agree, no one is entitled to anything....you work for what you want and hopefully you will get it.....

As far as janior.....comes down to skill set. I worked hard to learn what I know and want to be paid for it....there is a long line of uneducated and educated who can be a janitor....the line is considerably shorter for those that can fly an airplane.
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Old 03-14-2016 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs
I agree, no one is entitled to anything....you work for what you want and hopefully you will get it.....

As far as janior.....comes down to skill set. I worked hard to learn what I know and want to be paid for it....there is a long line of uneducated and educated who can be a janitor....the line is considerably shorter for those that can fly an airplane.
Then there should be a "market" for your skillset. Why aren't you holding out for more?

Can anyone here illustrate what would be perfect compensation? I would like to hear this defined.
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Old 03-14-2016 | 05:41 PM
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If you show up and take the offered pay check, that's what you are worth, period. Stop showing up, maybe it'll change.

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