[QUOTE=sflpilot;117113]I suppose I agree to an extent.

Exactly, I'll be flying a jet. Before all of you folks bash me and say I have SJS, let me explain some things. I flight instructed for 2 1/2 years. I have flown a piston twin as PIC under part 135. I have flown King Airs as a corporate executive jockey. The jet time, mostly just the PIC jet time, is just the next thing I'll need to round out my resume before I'll be competitive at someplace like FedEx or UPS. I have never intended to make a career at the regionals, and I'm going to keep my eyes fixed on the destination rather than the daily crap and circumstances. There are lots of people that I will have to compete with for those jobs that I want, and turboprop time in a King Air just isn't competitive. For some, the regional career is right. For me, it is extremely short-sighted. I have never wanted to sell myself short of my dream and my goal, and I'm not going to start now. As far as I'm concerned, I'm just taking the next step. So if you want to call it SJS, then feel free. Oh, and btw, I paid for all of my own flight training, and I have NO loans to pay. It's all about attitude folks. Plain and simple. You can keep a good attitude and keep looking forward, or you can talk about who gave up scope on what airplane, and what pilot is accelerating the race to the bottom. Just leave me out of the negative part.

Yeah. It sounds simple, but I'm not going to let setbacks or circumstance define me.

I gotta say he is one of the few that knows whats going on, especially in reference to the scope clause, mainline ego, and greed is what brought the industry to this level, "We aren't flying regional jets" they were the cause, we are the effect, not vice versa

P.S. 170's are much nicer on the inside and way more comfortable :)

bite your tongue, REP is fitting theirs for 76 seats. It's gonna be a sardine box just like mainline planes

Because regional contracts made it financially viable to send those aircraft to the regionals. A 76 seater at NWA, the FO was making $40 (first year) to $130, and CA's were making $175 to $191/hr (yr 12) preconcession.

At a regional? $20/hr to $40/hr for FO's, $60/hr to $110/hr (yr 18) for CA's.

Gee, I wonder why they are at the regionals?

IOW, it was a combination of the two - mainline pilots trying to save their pensions for farming out more flying and selling us down the river, and regional MEC's wanting the growth with crap contracts (or in the case of skywest, just agreeing to fly the damn things for their 50 seat rate).

I don't think people realize just how many good jobs disappeared with the introduction of these 70+ seat aircraft at the regional level. Instead of being at mainline making over $100k your second year, $200k+ as a CA you are at a regional making $30k as an FO and $60k as a CA.

NONE OF THIS would have been an issue if DALPA had not allowed Comair to fly the CRJ in 1991...

You should research some more. 76 seats will be with no first class. It will still be comfy.

Fosters you are way off. Who allow the planes to go to the regional level? BoilerUp is correct. It started with the mainline guys caving on scope. Which came first the chicken or the egg?

You want to go to extremes? How bout jets at no regionals. The minute the mainline guys allow this, it was over.

i saw congrats on the new hire!!!!!!!!!!

dont let "others" bring you down!!

to all of you out there bashing this new hire, you need to knock it off!! it isnt the regionals that are bringing the industry down....it is the pilots. you guys are CONSTANTLY bashing everything. i have said it before, that it is the pilots inherent RIGHT to bi**h, but good lord, give me a break!! you have a guy that just got hired, let him enjoy the moment......and let him make his career WHATEVER he wants to make it....we ALL have our own goals...

you are right, it is ALL about attitude!!!!!!

ok, my $.02 worth...

see ya!

Well I gotta say the mans gotta point, a very strong one as well ;)