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Pete389 05-03-2016 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Skittles9E (Post 2121863)
Okay nut job....

This^^^^^...lol, is priceless! Probably aren't many that aren't thinking it.

29Eleven 05-03-2016 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom (Post 2121849)
Want guarantees, head over to Best Buy and get some cell phone insurance. Piloting is a nonstop process of monitoring, from line checks, PCs, recurrent ACARS, and the other guysitting next to you. Yes, ACARS, the company can tell what you are doing in real time via data link, plenty of data channels. Never mind the constant medical poking and prodding, guys always want to avoid Dr Jellyfinger, and want the gimme medical, but EKGs, pee tests, and the multitude of other diagnostic possibilities, mean your onset Diabetes won't be missed and it will not be simple to get back in the saddle. I watch young guys deal with these issues regularly, no one is immune, have a back up plan, because you could walk out of your AMEs door without a medical with little notice.
But, hey it could never happen to you right? It's always the other guy that has it happen to him......you could be the other guy.

Dude, you need to take a break and step away from the keyboard. Breathe.....breathe......

galaxy flyer 05-03-2016 04:33 PM

If Colgan was caused by fatigue, the fatigue was brought by the crew's own poor decision making by commuting all night and ignoring their own unfitness for duty. Training was an issue, but poor stall training was approved by the FAA and wrong it was--it's hard to fathom the FAA's thinking on stall recovery at the time.

GF

ckelley 05-03-2016 04:34 PM

Not before he posts a link to the Korean action. North or South I wonder?

HighFlight 05-03-2016 04:35 PM

Breathe. It ends with "e". Otherwise, your comment makes no sense.


Originally Posted by 29Eleven (Post 2121880)
Dude, you need to take a break and step away from the keyboard. Breath.....breath......


29Eleven 05-03-2016 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2121891)
Breathe. It ends with "e". Otherwise, your comment makes no sense.

Touché....

ClickClickBoom 05-03-2016 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Skittles9E (Post 2121863)
Okay nut job....

Ok, moron! I will expect to see your name on a list and disappear just as quickly, back yo your job running the night shift grill at Taco Bell. Everything I posted is verifiable fact, very little opinion, garnered over 25 years as a line pilot in the airline industry, I cannot have help one with as limited intellect as you understand reasonable concepts, so I will bid you adieu, and wish you good luck, but luck won't fix stupid in the long run.

HighFlight 05-03-2016 04:53 PM

I am NOT touchy!! :D


Originally Posted by 29Eleven (Post 2121895)
Touché....


4thgenaviator 05-03-2016 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom (Post 2121849)
Want guarantees, head over to Best Buy and get some cell phone insurance. Piloting is a nonstop process of monitoring, from line checks, PCs, recurrent ACARS, and the other guysitting next to you. Yes, ACARS, the company can tell what you are doing in real time via data link, plenty of data channels. Never mind the constant medical poking and prodding, guys always want to avoid Dr Jellyfinger, and want the gimme medical, but EKGs, pee tests, and the multitude of other diagnostic possibilities, mean your onset Diabetes won't be missed and it will not be simple to get back in the saddle. I watch young guys deal with these issues regularly, no one is immune, have a back up plan, because you could walk out of your AMEs door without a medical with little notice.
But, hey it could never happen to you right? It's always the other guy that has it happen to him......you could be the other guy.


Sounds like Mr. 25 year line pilot is a little salty from eating too much Taco Bell and losing his own medical.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/1b/1b0bb...57122e0aff.jpg

Turbosina 05-03-2016 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom (Post 2121774)
And 63 seniority list members went to different pastures. 12 were training departures, so when you get hired for your ability to fog a mirror and get to the training facility on the right day don't think that it's in the bag, you got your assigned sims and a maximum of 10 additional hours of sim to get it to type ride standards. Don't forget the additional risk of IOE, every thing you do and touch is being notated for posterity. 10% are going home without an ID. And no, the panic at the corporate level is palpable, and the training department is getting very astute at deciding when to cut the losses and buy you a ticket home. In my class 1 of 6 new hires went home without an ID.
Assuming you make it through IOE you still have the luxury of probation and working for at an at will company. The deal is never truly sealed. PRIA is not your friend either.....

We lost 2 in my class, but both went to other (better) jobs, ie Frontier and Delta. How sure are you that the 12 training losses were washouts? Verifiable facts or just rumor?


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