Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus (Post 2124534)

Hmm even if I agree, that shows faults within the union, not the law. Cbreezy may have a point, but I still think we are getting poked by the bad end of the stick.

Same example. A company that hires pilots to fly passengers creates and owns three "separate" companies, all flying the same passengers that they were paying a union contracted pilot group to fly. Except now they pay WAY less to fly the same passengers AND use the companies against each other to secure pay cuts from the labor group. And legally we have ZERO protection from this, that I can see. Getting everyone to vote "No" hasn't worked and isn't the same as legal protection. Separate contract companies are one thing, but I have a huge problem with the parent company owning and managing B scale companies for the sole purpose of acquiring cheaper labor.

Once again, I've taken it too far. My apologies.

Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 2124763)

No, that IS the response and advice from ALPA legal. Fly it and grieve it is their position on how the RLA works.
Don't believe me; call Marcus Migliore at national legal and ask. If it's a contract dispute - all contract disputes are minor grievances under RLA - then you are told to fly it and grieve it.

Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus (Post 2124917)

As I said, fault within the union......

Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2124963)

That's all unions. It would be the exact same with IBT, APA, or RJPA.

Originally Posted by SayAlt (Post 2124226)

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Originally Posted by awax (Post 2125039)

Harvard of the Sky, I'm sure. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by mpet (Post 2124497)

Lmfao, it's also making college tuition grotesquely overpriced and flight training so expensive.

Originally Posted by pilotwithnoname (Post 2125376)

Actually the government insuring the loans to students insures that the college will get whatever payment they ask for. Don't federally back the loans, no one could get one and tuition would have to drop.

Thats one clear case where federally guaranteed loans are causing a huge problem. Before these loans where guaranteed, kids where still going to college it was just a lot cheaper.

Now regional pay? Yeah I don't know about that.

Originally Posted by intrepidcv11 (Post 2125056)

Number one qualifier of college selection, avoid any potential sausage fests.

Originally Posted by zondaracer (Post 2125394)

That's why I applied to an all girls college.