Report from Regional Airline Convention:
 

What a ****ty article

The last three paragraphs took a real turn off subject, there.

Ha, 70 days with no cancellation. A 717 was damaged the other night (hail) and and the flight didn't go out but also didn't cancel. It did operate the next morning with an Airbus!
Whatever.

Man, it sure did!

It was torturous the way the author of this article pivoted from regional airline convention topics to an LGBT bathroom issue.

Totally incongruent and weird.

Actually it is perfectly logical and makes sense.

Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your strong suit?!

:p

^^^^and we have a scholar here....!!!







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I'm thinking you may be one of those people who's having trouble deciding which bathroom you should use.

My guess is that the editors threw it in at the last minute.

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I like how Envoy is the "goal standard"... I guess no one proof reads their stuff.

Crap my editor wants 1500 hundred words and I'm only at 1100....hmm what else is going on this weekend....

^^^^^^^^^^^ lmbo that's funny, but for real some dude looking like a girl walks into a bathroom with my daughter in there.......not going to be a good outcome

If s/he looks like a girl, but is a dude, how can you tell?

Maybe you should grab the crotch of everyone going in, just to make sure: wouldn't want any perverts harassing them!

Do you know how feminine guys who dress like women are? Think the most flamboyant gay FA you've met now multiply that by ten. Dude trannys aren't attacking little girls. It's such a ridiculous train of thought.

At least they got this summed up succinctly, and it's something almost no other journalist has quoted as well.

"When you are one of three buyers, it's nice to have 10 sellers. You can whipsaw them. That drives the lowest cost solution, which is also the lowest quality solution."

Regarding the whole transgender bathroom issue, you guys above have it all wrong. You're looking at it from the perspective of "what if some guy goes in there while my daughter is.....".

That's not at all the issue.

The issue is locker rooms and what the man might do inside of the women's locker room. This exact scenario is making the news right now. In Washington state, a man, dressed as a man and looking like a man, went into the women's locker room and undressed himself in front of a bunch of girls and women.

What he did is now perfectly legal there. He didn't even attempt to identify as female.

Man in Women's Locker Room: 'I Have a Right to Be Here'

Man these liberals and there feelings are so smart.... way to go dumba**es. I got an idea if you don't like the rules here in the USA move to Iraq!!

Hey go stand in the welfare line I'll go to work and pay for you to be an idiot no worries...

Yeah but he was just a ******** trying to make a 'point': http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2535150

If you identify as a man, and you look like a man, you're going to cause panic in the woman's locker room and therefore should be in the man's. Is it really so complicated? People know which restroom to use, including transgender. The NC law is bigoted and offensive, and that's why it was mentioned in the article: because reasonable, reputable companies pulled out of NC.

No, it was a political agenda, that had to be injected into the article and rammed down our throats by the liberal media. The silent majority is growing tired of this crap.

Thank you couldn't say it better!!

Has nothing to do with that... it's about treating humans like humans.
https://youtu.be/WSa0wLNxXwc?t=108

Trans people in bathrooms hasn't been an issue for the past 10 years... I don't understand why it's now suddenly an issue that someone that looks like a guy is in the men's restroom for a basic bodily function. The republican party lost my support a long time ago because I'm gay and they think I don't have any right to exist or to marry somebody I love. That's not an agenda.. that's me and it affects my life. As for the silent majority... well... at one point a majority of people were against interracial marriage... a majority of people saw no problems with slavery... Human rights are human rights, and that's something 60% of people shouldn't be able to take away from the 40%. (Except national polling for gay marriage for example is now well over 50% support, etc, but that's not the point.)
That said... I think it's important to be tolerant of both sides and tolerance goes both ways. I understand people have differences of opinion... I just don't think that should ever extend to being able to threaten someone's rights.

Is there any way to watch the panel discussions online?

I have gay friends, both male and female, and some of my favorite crew to work with are gay. I have no issue with any of that but to me this is a pretty simple topic:

If you have a hog you go to the men's room.....End of story. Life isn't fair and sometimes feelings get hurt. If you truly feel like you are a woman but are stuck in a man's body then I really do feel for you but I simply cannot agree with him going into the ladies room.

Unfortunately this is a case where the few ruin it for the masses because you can't sit here and tell me that some dude isn't going to dress up as a woman and claim that "he identifies that way" in order to be a creep. It will happen. 100% chance. If it happens even once, ever, it's not worth it just for some guys "feelings".

What we need now is 4 bathrooms instead of 3.:rolleyes:

I agree with you on this ..... My only add is that now the LGBT community has more rights then people who are straight... How's that fair?? Where are my rights?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...0a0e7c1d55.jpg But it's creating the exact same problem if you force this chick into the men's room just because she was born male.
The only people ruining it for the masses or dudes dressing up as a woman to be a creep are people "protesting" this law... I don't get why it's suddenly an issue. Society has handled this just fine til now, if you look like a dude you go to the dude's room, if you look like a chick go to the chick's room. Also... women's bathrooms are full of stalls anyway. So how/why are they going in there to be creeps? There aren't urinals, you realize that right?


Stillcantfly: As a gay man, what rights do I now have that you don't? *Citation needed on that one.

Please list in details what "rights" an LGBT person has that you don't.

I'm waiting.

The right to be fired still in over 25 states just because I'm gay. So technically he's correct...

Ha! I'll give you that one!

By forcing people to accept what you think is acceptable and Christians, don't think being gay is ok. Now not judging as it's not my place but I still think it's wrong. I have gay friends and get along fine with them still hangout and they know how I feel. My religion says it's not ok to be gay or a transgender and it also tells me to love everyone and not judge because sin is sin and we all sin. But LGBT keeps shoving it down HR's throat and America's throat forcing me to accept it and I don't. In America I should have the choice be able to exercise my religion freely, I am losing that right daily! By forcing a business owner who has invested in his company and forcing him to make a cake for a gay wedding when it's against his religion it takes away his rights. I got an idea go to a different bakery, who cares. LGBT will sue and force that owner to make them make a cake how's that right? You get the privlige of exercising your first amendment right. As a straight person if I say it's wrong and don't agree with being gay I can lose my job! So I don't have first amendment rights anymore! Thus LGBT is taking away my rights! Now I agree with you that you shouldn't be able to be fired because your gay who cares.....but if you are a lazy worker then hands down they should be able to fire you (not saying your lazy just using it as an example) let me once again reiterate I don't care that your gay or a transgender but I should be allowed to think and say I don't agree with it per my religion. Again being gay is not between you and me and doesn't bother me I'd hang out with you and have a beer. But forcing me to accept it isn't cool either. Everyone has an opinion and are entitled to it. I shouldn't have to shut up just because you don't agree....make sense? I'm not trying to be rude mean or bully you in any way but, I feel LGBT is taken it to far.

I disagree obviously that it's "wrong" because this is just the way I am... I didn't choose to be gay. It doesn't give me any advantages in life, I worried for a long time that it would affect me negatively in aviation. Thankfully I've only had to endure negative comments a few times in my career and most of the time it was CA's assuming I was straight and saying something negative or hurtful about a gay FA for example. I'm a big boy and I can handle it without causing a fuss, I have thick skin. I also have conservative friends from NC that are supporting Trump, I disagree with him but I enjoy the banter as long as it's respectful on both sides. You have the right to exercise your religion but at the same time I don't understand how can say I'm forcing anything down your throat. America was founded on the idea that just because a religion says something, doesn't give anybody the right to take away another's rights. At the same time you have the right to freely practice your religion. I take issue with whether any religion 'really' takes issue with being gay or transgender, because really it's always based on a narrow interpretation of some particular section of the bible (and yet other parts of that section are just ignored)... I think it has more to do with the "ick" factor, the way you were raised, and uncomfortably in certain parts of the country where gay people were for a long time pretty invisible. The same arguments about religion were used to justify prohibition on interracial marriage... You can't show me a piece of the bible that says that being gay is wrong that doesn't talk about mixing fabrics and not eating shellfish. It's just stupid... it has nothing to do with the bible and more to do with a 'feeling'.
On the cake issue... the whole thing is stupid, I think. I'm a bit torn because it is tricky for me personally. If someone doesn't feel like making a cake for a gay wedding, I don't really see why we need to force them. Let people have their opinions... the problem is they're offering a service to the public and we wouldn't really tolerate a business putting up a sign that says "no blacks, no jews, no muslims"... On some level I wish we could find a better solution like, "Look, I'm not comfortable making a cake for your wedding because of my beliefs. There are plenty of bakers in this town that specialize in gay weddings. I'm not refusing service and if they can't accommodate you I will, but would you please consider using someone else?" Idk.. I have very mixed views on the issue and it's a tricky one because I agree that tolerance goes both ways. The bathroom issue is far more cut and dry for me, because it's so stupid and it's just a basic right. And I can't empathize or understand the transgender thing at all, I have no friends that are trans, and it's hard for me to understand it, but I don't think they have a lot of choice in the matter either.
"As a straight person if I say it's wrong and don't agree with being gay I can lose my job!"
I mean, that's the decision of the employer though, you don't have free speech while working for a company. On your own time, you can say what you'd like and enjoy 1st amendment protections, but I can't tell my boss to his face he's a cheap jerk and then claim first amendment protection when he fires me for what I said. Totally different issue. And nobody's trying to shut you up, I'm happy to have a reasonable dialogue about the issue and explain why I think you're wrong and hopefully educate you a little on it. And at the same time learn something from your views as well and understand why it's such an issue for you for example...

Is this the airline pilot forum?

Behold, my finest work.

If you replace the word 'gay' with 'black' and 'LGBT' with 'colored', you will see just how wrong you sound.

Your religion is not an excuse to deny anyone of their rights.

Well said. I love it how not wanting to be discriminated against is to him having their values shoved down his throat.