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Easiest Online School To Get a Degree in?
Currently enrolled with Embry-Riddle Online. I recieved 35 credits for my ratings. But the fact that I have to take 3 math classes kind of turns me away. Thoughts on UVU, Liberty, Everglades?
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Give University of Phoenix a try. The are the Mesa of colleges, everybody passes no matter what.
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Does a bachelors degree from an online school like University of Phoenix satisfy the degree requirement for major airlines, or are they looking for a more reputable school?
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Originally Posted by ALI G Mmmm
(Post 2127153)
Currently enrolled with Embry-Riddle Online. I recieved 35 credits for my ratings. But the fact that I have to take 3 math classes kind of turns me away. Thoughts on UVU, Liberty, Everglades?
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Every college online or not will probably make you take at least 2 math classes.
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American Military University Online.
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TL;DR OP wants open book tests for his degree.
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Originally Posted by ALI G Mmmm
(Post 2127153)
But the fact that I have to take 3 math classes kind of turns me away.
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Why don't you actually challenge yourself and EARN your degree instead of looking for the easy way out?
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Originally Posted by wiz5422
(Post 2127305)
Why don't you actually challenge yourself and EARN your degree instead of looking for the easy way out?
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math
No matter which college/university you go to, If you don't test into the required math class for the degree you will have to take remedial math classes first.
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Originally Posted by Aviatormar
(Post 2127306)
Really? Because a degree is what defines you?
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I'm not asking the easiest way to get out of it. The point im trying to get across is... what college offers the most credits for ratings. ERAU requires me to take pre-calculus, calculus, and statistics. Even though I placed high on my placement exams I still need to take three maths to graduate. Yeah working full time as an FO makes it a bit challengening at times. But do I regret not going to college for 4 years after high school? No. Because I think being 21 years old and in the regionals is great. I'm not up to my neck in studnet loads. I just didn't think it was worth it to go to ERAU main campus.
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While having a degree in something is nice, making it a requirement for a job in an occupation that does not require it is nothing more than a way to weed out applicants.
Look, I have a degree in Bonzai Tree Culture! Box = Checked. |
try to go to a state university with a physical campus. Texas A&M system in Texas has some with full online degree
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Originally Posted by ALI G Mmmm
(Post 2127439)
ERAU requires me to take pre-calculus, calculus, and statistics.
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Thomas Edison State University is a good deal. Much cheaper than Embry, and more credit hours swap if you already have some college.
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Originally Posted by wiz5422
(Post 2127305)
Why don't you actually challenge yourself and EARN your degree instead of looking for the easy way out?
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Do you have a plan B? Embry Riddles name carries more weight than the others mentioned. Those math classes can lead to a B.S. Degree which is far more valuable on a resume than a B.A. Your young right now, but you still must be prepared if you should lose your medical. I suggest a computer science, B.S. degree. You NEED to be qualified in another field other than aviation. Trust me, your regional FO job is a million times better than any entry level non skilled job waiting for you in the real world. You want options.
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Originally Posted by ALI G Mmmm
(Post 2127153)
Currently enrolled with Embry-Riddle Online. I recieved 35 credits for my ratings. But the fact that I have to take 3 math classes kind of turns me away. Thoughts on UVU, Liberty, Everglades?
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Originally Posted by squib
(Post 2127466)
Did you graduate high school? All of those were/are common high school classes.
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Originally Posted by Systemized
(Post 2127893)
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Originally Posted by iFlyRC
(Post 2127565)
Embry Riddles name carries more weight than the others mentioned.
I'd echo a state school (inexpensive) in a discipline that provides a solid backstop in a non-aviation subject. So what that it'll take a while, stay on track and you should be done about the time you've got 3000 hours TPIC. |
I kinda wonder how this would play in an interview.
HR: So tell us a little about why you chose the college you did and why and tell us about some of your experiences there (an actual question I was asked in an interview) OP: Well, I wanted the fast track so I went to Puppy Mill pilot school and got my ratings in 18 months with no degree and took the first airline gig I could get. I chose Hollywood Upstairs Medical College because it was cheap and didn't require too many of those icky hard math classes, just to check the box on your company's application. It was great. I did all my homework and tests from La Quintas and Holiday Inn Expresses across the country. The Holiday Inn Expresses really helped. I met so many awesome people in the business centers. Can I have my job now? HR: Uh huh... The smartest thing I've read is that it isn't worth the expense for ERAU's actual campus. Agree whole heartedly. You gotta be out of your damn mind to pay that tuition. |
Delta specifically wrote on my resume, in red pen, at a job fair that I attended my university and didn't go online.
I was also asked in my interview about why I chose my school. I loved this question because I loved my college experience. Everyone has their circumstances, but if you are in it for the long term I recommend attending a university the old school way. Good luck! |
Originally Posted by dodgerk
(Post 2127937)
Delta specifically wrote on my resume, in red pen, at a job fair that I attended my university and didn't go online.
I was also asked in my interview about why I chose my school. I loved this question because I loved my college experience. Everyone has their circumstances, but if you are in it for the long term I recommend attending a university the old school way. Good luck! |
Originally Posted by Fpmx772
(Post 2127941)
Was the guy who wrote on your Resume also born in 1905 and still going to and from school up hill, in the snow with one shoe on? Come on people, this is 2016 the age of everything is computerized and online! Most of us in this industry have families and are FOs with only 11 days off a month barley making enough money to buy a cup of noodles every night. It's not that easy to just go to school and get a 4 year degree the "old school way". If you do, that could take what, 10 years to get a 4 year degree....
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
(Post 2127952)
I think the point is that it's the journey and not the destination that make you a well-rounded individual. And that still carries some value most places. Sure, everyone's situation is different but if all you've done since high school is chase airline gigs and blew off college...well fine. But all other things being equal, who would you hire? I've spent the last decade sharing cockpits with both types and I know who I would want to hire.
I don't think going to college makes you any better of a person/pilot. People with true life experience (military, ex law enforcement, firefighter etc) are a far well rounded person than some 22 year old who went straight to a 4 year college and is now flying at a regional. I sure do know who I would hire! |
If you just want to check the bachelor degree box, there are plenty of respectable colleges that offer online(out-of-state) degrees in the $25K range. Just do a google search.
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Originally Posted by dodgerk
(Post 2127937)
Delta specifically wrote on my resume, in red pen, at a job fair that I attended my university and didn't go online.
That's because they are snooty pants and not up to date on the real world. Online is just as challenging as brick n mortar schools....if not more so... I was also asked in my interview about why I chose my school. I loved this question because I loved my college experience. Everyone has their circumstances, but if you are in it for the long term I recommend attending a university the old school way. Good luck! |
Originally Posted by Fpmx772
(Post 2128014)
I don't think going to college makes you any better of a person/pilot. People with true life experience (military, ex law enforcement, firefighter etc) are a far well rounded person than some 22 year old who went straight to a 4 year college and is now flying at a regional. I sure do know who I would hire!
Every young 20 something year old thinks they will make 70 to 80k first year out of college, only to be crushed to find out that they need to swallow their pride, work for far less to gain real world experience before they would ever be considered for a job in their chosen field at the pay rates they expected to make. Computer programming is an exception to this, only because so few people can do it, but also doesn't require anything other than a computer to learn. All the material is free on the internet, and even ivy league colleges offer classes for free online. To say that the industry is crying, begging for people in this field, would be an understatement. Many companies don't care if you went to college for it. Can you guess what my plan B is? Although I have to admit, my ego REALLY wants to replace that BA with a BS engineering degree... |
Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
(Post 2127952)
I think the point is that it's the journey and not the destination that make you a well-rounded individual. And that still carries some value most places. Sure, everyone's situation is different but if all you've done since high school is chase airline gigs and blew off college...well fine. But all other things being equal, who would you hire? I've spent the last decade sharing cockpits with both types and I know who I would want to hire.
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Originally Posted by Fpmx772
(Post 2128014)
I don't think going to college makes you any better of a person/pilot. People with true life experience (military, ex law enforcement, firefighter etc) are a far well rounded person than some 22 year old who went straight to a 4 year college and is now flying at a regional. I sure do know who I would hire!
Plenty from universities too. It totally depends on how the individual applies them-self. That's one of the reasons why the majors look so much at extra-curricular activities. Was he trying to get the most out of the experience? Or just skimping by on the bare minimum. If you'd take some random PFC who just got out of the military over an accounting graduate who's a CPA, just because the former spent some time in the military...well, don't go working for human resources please. Now, if that PFC did something spectacular or otherwise had a noteworthy record (why's he still a PFC?) then its a different story. |
Originally Posted by dodgerk
(Post 2127937)
Delta specifically wrote on my resume, in red pen, at a job fair that I attended my university and didn't go online.
I was also asked in my interview about why I chose my school. I loved this question because I loved my college experience. Everyone has their circumstances, but if you are in it for the long term I recommend attending a university the old school way. Good luck! Point is, the old fart born in 1934 that wrote that stuff in red is going to retire too eventually, and the day will come (sooner than you think) when majors won't require the 4 year degree because they too will realize they won't be able to afford to be picky and/or weed out candidates by their degrees because they will need pilots and badly in the next 5-10 years. American Airlines is already accepting flows with nothing but GEDs, hell, they even advertise it in writing, "flow to AA, no college degree required". Work experience, life experience and a combination of total time in 121 should and will eventually become a more acceptable standard when you walk into an interview. Remember when regionals were able to be super picky about who they hired and would only accept you with 3500 TT, a 4 year college degree and a min of 1000 hours of multi? What do you think will happen at the major level eventually? |
I'm seeing a lot of rationalization from posters like Fpmx, Learflyer and Da40 here. When you're using terms like "cheapest" and "easiest" rather than "best" or "most valuable", I think that says more about you than having or not having a degree. That was my point, in a nutshell.
And the argument that "it won't matter in a few years" is bogus as well. Because it matters NOW. And no one can say what the industry will look like in a few years. So ask yourself, where do you want to be when the music stops from the next worldwide socio-economic burp; on the leading edge of this current upswing, or the trailing edge?
Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
(Post 2128185)
I have a REALLY hard time believing your story, but even if this did happen, it won't make a difference because a degree is a degree and IF you're a white male like 95% of all airline pilots you are STILL going to be hired after the female FO with 1000 sic and the half samoan/half african american that may only come with an associate's degree.
Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
(Post 2128185)
Point is, the old fart born in 1934 that wrote that stuff in red is going to retire too eventually, and the day will come (sooner than you think) when majors won't require the 4 year degree because they too will realize they won't be able to afford to be picky and/or weed out candidates by their degrees because they will need pilots and badly in the next 5-10 years.
American Airlines is already accepting flows with nothing but GEDs, hell, they even advertise it in writing, "flow to AA, no college degree required". Work experience, life experience and a combination of total time in 121 should and will eventually become a more acceptable standard when you walk into an interview. Remember when regionals were able to be super picky about who they hired and would only accept you with 3500 TT, a 4 year college degree and a min of 1000 hours of multi? What do you think will happen at the major level eventually? |
Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
(Post 2128271)
I'm seeing a lot of rationalization from posters like Fpmx, Learflyer and Da40 here. When you're using terms like "cheapest" and "easiest" rather than "best" or "most valuable", I think that says more about you than having or not having a degree. That was my point, in a nutshell.
And the argument that "it won't matter in a few years" is bogus as well. Because it matters NOW. And no one can say what the industry will look like in a few years. So ask yourself, where do you want to be when the music stops from the next worldwide socio-economic burp; on the leading edge of this current upswing, or the trailing edge? Well believe it. I was asked the same or similar questions at two United meet and greets, a Spirit interview and a Delta interview. You must have better data points? What does "more acceptable standard" even mean?!:confused: Seems like just more rationalization. The standards are dropping because they have to. It's not a choice airlines are making because they WANT to, it's just the only way they can get butts in seats with the downward wage pressure and miserable mess that has been created. Your argument is literally "Why waste your time becoming more competitive? Just give it some time and the bar will lower to my level." Again, in my opinion, this speaks more about your character than any degree or life experience you may have. |
Originally Posted by Learflyer
(Post 2128278)
You have a lot to learn about character my friend. The degree has been watered down (it basically became a business and student loans are the next bubble to burst) and is not the excitement it used to be. Again...In my opinion a degree doesn't tie the "whole person" concept together. A well-rounded life has many tentacles to it. At some point the aircraft still has to be flown safely.
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
(Post 2128305)
You may be right. But I would suggest that you have a lot to learn about irony and reading comprehension.
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