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Hoser 05-16-2016 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Celeste (Post 2129799)
Mitsubishi's crowning achievement was the 1999 mitsubishi eclipse. .

WW2 Zero was pretty darn good. Pretty sure it was built by Mitsubishi along with many other aircraft.

saturn 05-16-2016 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Hoser (Post 2130052)
WW2 Zero was pretty darn good. Pretty sure it was built by Mitsubishi along with many other aircraft.

Engineers behind the Zero are all deceased now. People are what make a company, and theirs has very little experience developing transport jets.
But with billions on the line with the success of the project, I think the deliveries happen.
Compass flys E175s with MTOW of 89k lbs. I'm sure if the weight of the MRJ9 isn't fixable, a clause will be agreed to for the specific type, still limiting it to 76 seats. Some agreement to parking more 50 seaters or replacing old 70/76 seaters. If all else fails, convert to MRJ7s to replace old CRJ7s, fly routes commonly done by 50 seaters.

iFlyRC 05-16-2016 02:48 PM

The Japanese do not tolerate failure.

WhatNow 05-16-2016 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by saturn (Post 2130277)
Engineers behind the Zero are all deceased now. People are what make a company, and theirs has very little experience developing transport jets.
But with billions on the line with the success of the project, I think the deliveries happen.
Compass flys E175s with MTOW of 89k lbs. I'm sure if the weight of the MRJ9 isn't fixable, a clause will be agreed to for the specific type, still limiting it to 76 seats. Some agreement to parking more 50 seaters or replacing old 70/76 seaters. If all else fails, convert to MRJ7s to replace old CRJ7s, fly routes commonly done by 50 seaters.

Who is Compass flying the 89k E175's for?

Mesabah 05-16-2016 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by WhatNow (Post 2130306)
Who is Compass flying the 89k E175's for?

They are grandfathered in for Delta via the NWA merger.

Al Czervik 05-16-2016 03:25 PM

Alberts said pilot unions should understand that the MRJ90’s weight is a function of new technology that will bring increased efficiencies to regional flying and the aircraft is “not a threat to the US pilot community.”

-I disagree.

Skittles9E 05-16-2016 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2130312)
Alberts said pilot unions should understand that the MRJ90’s weight is a function of new technology that will bring increased efficiencies to regional flying and the aircraft is “not a threat to the US pilot community.”

-I disagree.

Completely agree with you on that point Al. Every quote in the article by that Mistubishi rep was out in left field. I pray that mainline pilots don't relax scope. Also IIRC the MRJ90 is only over the max allowable weight by about a 1,000 Lbs. no one at the company thought to make the MGTOW a 1,000 lbs lighter.....

minimwage4 05-16-2016 03:49 PM

I hope they get them but I don't think mainline wants to fly RJs, look at AA, they're dumping their E190s by 2018.

Where are all these 100+ MRJ orders going to go? They'll workout a deal where they'll trade the weight limit for the amount of seats, everybody wins.

chrisreedrules 05-16-2016 04:07 PM

I think the C-Series will leave these dead in the water.

Al Czervik 05-16-2016 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 2130325)
I hope they get them but I don't think mainline wants to fly RJs, look at AA, they're dumping their E190s by 2018.

Where are all these 100+ MRJ orders going to go? They'll workout a deal where they'll trade the weight limit for the amount of seats, everybody wins.

We (pilots) do not want to dump the 190. This is a management decision. Something has to replace the flying though. The 319 is used for this flying as well. We don't retire them until the end of 2019 so I hope we see a replacement at mainline by then. I would think by now we have learned our lesson with scope.


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