Eagle "Begging" for Pilot Applicants?
 

I received an email from Eagle, funny I haven't had an application on airlineapps for 3 years. I guess things are really heating up over at Eagle.

800/100 or near these mins.
700 pilots in 2007

Where are they going find that many pilots? There aren't many Americans in flight schools these days.

Not knowing where you'd be based or what equipment was a huge turn off for me. I heard they are addressing this issue somewhat.

Yes they need pilots, but its an automated system anytime anyone changed their mins on AIRLINEAPPS, your not special everybody gets em

[QUOTE=Lanesuzza;117181]Not knowing where you'd be based or what equipment was a huge turn off for me.QUOTE]

"American Eagle is planning on hiring approximately 700 pilots in 2007 and is now offering flexibility in choice of domicile with confirmation prior to training."

Where did you get your information?

Hey,

I am going down there in a couple weeks for an interview. I have same issue with domicle and not knowing where your going but, they changed their policy last week. So from what I understand you can pretty much tell them where you want to go and guarenteed to be based there. No more guessing game. So I am going to find out and see if I can get BOS or least the emb which means I'll at least be able to bid BOS. When I got call I she expressed that they are desperate for people and thats what is reflected this new policy change. So it should be interesting. Now lets see if I can pass the interview:p

Hey where are you now that your flying a 1900, also most airlines don't tell you where you are going to be based, nothing new

When I posted my resume on AirlineApps 3 years ago, I was contacted by Eagle to interview. I decided not to interview because of the domicile/equipment issue.



Good luck to all of you.

I am at Commutair. I like it here but, they closed the BOS base and I am not much of a fan of commuting.

Don't blame ya, well Good luck I hear Eagle interviews have always been difficult, but seems that will certainly change, besides your 121 you already have the job at Eagle, they just want to me you. anyway good luck

P.S. Its funny how things change so quickly when I was first trying to get on with an airline about 1 1-/2 years ago I had 1150 and like 150 multi and the only interview I got was Eagle, Colgan, and Mesa, hah I only went to Colgan interview and got it, but I had applied to CHQ, XJT ( #1 of course), AWAC, SKW and now CHQ, SKW, AWC are hiring guys like crazy with 600/100 or at the companies bare min. Took me 3 applications and 6 months of 121 to get an interview at XJT.

I hope all the regionals become starved for pilots. It might be the first ripple of help that could mean some hiring before they raise the retirement's and cut us all off again :rolleyes:

I tell every F.O. I fly with everyday to quit and go work somewhere better. It is my small contribution to stoping Mesa's BS. I just hope a few listen before I decide I can't handle it anymore and quit too! :D

Don't forget passing the sim ride, and THEN THE MEDICAL!!!!
(If they still do that?)

Now what happens if for example someone wanted BOS, but the only base available at the time is something like LAX or DFW? You just get up and say 'thanks but no thanks'? Yea I know, beggars can't be choosers, but I'm just curious what you guys would do in that situation and if that would leave a black mark anywhere?

If they are hiring that many people that fast, it seems like you could bid BOS and get it fairly quickly. Seems like the commute might be worth it for a little while.

If you tell Eagle no then chances are they will just want you more :D.

But seriously, if enough people start saying "thanks but no thanks" maybe they'll start giving financial incentives to go to certain bases.

A few questions to help shed some light on the future upgrade time.

1. How many AA flow throughs are there at Eagle?

2. I am guessing Eagle did not hire after 9/11. When did they resume hiring?

3. Does anyone have hiring numbers from 1999 through 2006. That could be VERY helpful.


I know Eagle has an older pilot group, and several career Eagle pilots. It is very unfortunate that they want to change age 60 as this will only compound the upgrade problem at Eagle.

According to APC, Eagle has 3,200 pilots. It's safe to assume to 1/2 are capts and 1/2 are FO's (That's about 1600 FO's). If they hire 700 pilots this year, and you are in the first few groups of new hires, you should be a somewhat senior FO after only one year.
Now I know that is because so many FO's are jumping ship just for the upgrade, but all that needs to happen is :
1. Flow throughs back to AA
2. A few age 60 retirements
3. A few captains leaving for FedEX, UPS, Continental, Southwest, Delta, United, etc...

And as soon as most junior captain gets to September 2001, it should almost instantly jump to about a 4 year upgrade. Not the best, but not this terrible forever wait that has been in the last several years.

I think what Eagle needs to do is up their FO pay, especially year 3,4,5... At most regionals, people can put up with 1st and 2nd year FO pay because they know by year 3/4 they are making Regional captain pay, and that is a liveable wage. Eagle needs to raise their year 3, 4, 5, 6 FO pay to a somewhat liveable wage if they are to have any hope of recruiting pilots.

I agree. Regionals are curently shooting themselves in the foot with low wages. They actually encourage employees to flee based upon salary. Times have changed. Many would like to make a career out of a regional/national but cannot. That is why you are seeing age 65, lower minimums, select a base, select equipment, etc . . . .

I have posted some of the issues facing airlines in another post. I will repost under it's own title so others don't have to search. It's interesting to say the least.

I got the same email from airapps this weekend. I also get the "your name was given to us but a company employee and want you to apply!" at least once or twice a week. Just had one of my students go threw training in DFW and he said that one of the last classes Eagle had was pretty empty and very few people showed up. The pressure is on for them and it will be interesting to see what else Eagle comes up with to sweeten the pot for newhires.

I don't recall SKW ever going below their published mins of 1000/100. Correct me if I'm wrong.

ATP has a deal with them for 850.

I believe that when you go for your interview you can tell them what base you want and then you will be able to bypass classdates for a certain period of time until your base/equip is available. We are so short on all bases and equip, so it shouldnt be hard to get what you want (except maybe LAX EMJ FO).

No, they don't.
ATP grads can INTERVIEW with SkyWest at 850TT.
You will NOT sit in class with less than 1000.

Great point about people not being in flight school. I think it came down to a cost benefit issue for most people. You can't expect somenone to invest tens of thousands on training and then not have a living wage. Eagle has learned this one the hard way and others will also.

I wouldn't count on it. Even though they need folks badly they are sticking to their guns in the interview. Many who interview still don't make it. Study the Gleim ATP book, there's no excuse for busting the written. Good luck.

It looks like the steps they are taking to correct their problem is going to take time. They say it's going to bring down the upgrades but we won't know any time soon. As far as base prefference, I think it's a lost cause, 1999 most junior captain is just brutal for a regional airline. I'd give it a few more months untill they drop to commercial and multi.

Are you serious?

About what?

Yeah, I definity not taking it lightly. Its going to be a hard fight

Hey Short Bus what do you mean when you say passing the Sim Ride & Medical at Eagle?

If you haven't already heard, AA/AE does an astronaut candidate style medical for the new hires. They pretty much check everything, takes a long time.

Excellent! That is probably the best news that could be out there. Once the Pilot source is dried up . . . . Each regional will be trying to lure what few pilots are left to their airline, with so few pilots around, pay might just increase.

This is why they can't get pilots. None of the other regionals do this type of invasive interview. It is kind of intimidating for a lot of people, especially when there are other places that are better.

Well I hopr not, but ina year or two maybe have thousands of well qualified former Expressjet pilots out there :(

Thats what I am banking on! The person I spoke to said they needed 60 month and only 4 showed for the last class.

Is high cholesterol a disqualifying condition at Eagle if you are otherwise young and perfectly healthy?

I don't really know however they do draw blood and I think it may be one thing they do check.

Don't base people out of the country and you wont have that problem.

wow wow, after giving me grief for what I had to say about Colgan bases, who are you to say anything?

..and dont take this the wrong way, but real airlines dont have "hometown" bases spread throughout the northeast.

Technically speaking, Puerto Rico is still part of the good 'ole U.S. of A. Just thought i'd be facetious. :D

Is an eye exam part of the "astronaut physical" at Eagle?

This "astronaut physical" that seems to be getting everyones panties in a wad isn't anything more than a full physical that you might get, say, when your wife wants a $250k life insurance policy. It's just a physical with blood work. They do the tyical look at you stuff that your AME should be doing. Look up the nose, in the ears, vision test, hearing test, blood pressure,, EKG, take some blood, pee in the cup, turn your head and caugh. I had high cholesterol and high tryglicerides and still got hired, just got a letter saying I might want to get those things checked out.

I'm sure you all have had physicals like these before. If you played sports in highschool almost every school district out there requires you to get a physical and they really do nothing more in this physical than they would for that. Also, since you are a pilot, you have gone through just about all of this before with the FAA pysical. The only difference with this physical and the FAA physical is they draw blood and, like I said before, if you have a minor discrepancy they only advise you to get it checked out.

Quit worrying about nothing. If you are freaked out, call your family doc and ask them to do a physical. You will get the same one as Eagle gives (minus maybe the EKG). They aren't looking for anything beyond FAA Class 1 medical requirements. You have to have one to interview and they are just confirming you didn't make one with photoshop. You hear people say "It's an all day thing". Mine took 4 hours but the majority of that time was waiting around doing nothing.

If you really want a hardcore physical go visit your local MEPS, Eagle medical is a breeze.