How much PIC to be a street CA?
 

Not trying to generate flamebait:D , but with around 765 Turbine PIC (364 in Helicopters), I'm wondering:

How much Turbine PIC would get a guy a street CA job at Pinnacle?

What about Skywest?

Any others?

Something to consider about street CAs, they'll always be less senior to the upgrades. You could be a junior CA for a long time as FOs keep upgrading over you.

It's total time... street captains are FO's that are looking to get their turbine PIC with the dreams of moving on

Who is hiring street captains to a jet? I know Mesa did it for the 1900 and the Dash 8's {oh yeah by the way, those guys are about to take it in the behind} but who is bring on street caps in an RJ.

Some one made a good point about the street cap deal. If you can stand sitting reserve for awhile, considering moving into that reserve base because commuting blows, bad! You will sit reserve longer than others because FO's will upgrade around you in domicile and out of. For the pay and the PIC there is definately a trade off.

I'm just trying to gather information. I'm going to have to leave my current job (military) before my 1000 FW Turb PIC because I'm going to retire.

I figure that I would be able to suffer the reserve thing(away from home) logging PIC easier than it would be to log FO also away from home?

The problem with street captain gigs is this...if they are hiring street captains it means that their own FO's are not sticking around long enough to upgrade. This is usually a very bad indication of QOL, company culture, pay, and opportunity.

The only good case for taking a street captain job is to get the PIC...but in todays world PIC alone won't get you a major job, you have to know somoeone. If your uncle is a CP at FDX and is going to walk your resume in as soon as you hit 1000, then go for it. Otherwise consider carefully...no point in doing 1-2 years as a street captain only to not get hired by a major and start all over at another regional for QOL.

Nobody is hiring jet street captains, and it is unlikely that anyone will in the foreeable future. It's usually smaller turboprops like 1900's.

Rumor, and only rumor has it Chautauqua is running into staffing problems and may be looking to hire street guys. I would say this is most likely going to be jet captains from the bottom end of the seniority list at places like mesa. Again rumor from a few inside.

CHQ has the highest mins out there...1500 I think. They of all people should have a pool of qualified FO's.

Well PNCL IS having a staffing problem, but supposedly the mins for capt upgrades are getting dropped so FO's can upgrade. The street capts I have flown with have been on the rsv string for a good part of the time here. If you dont mind sitting rsv than its ok i guess, but I hate rsv even living in base. Keep in mind that if you get hired today and I upgrade 2 years from now- I will still bid higher than you b/c I have been here longer. Seniority rules. Good luck

forgot to mention- I believe the number of hours is 3000TT with 500 in the CRJ, or 3500TT. I could be wrong on that but I believe that was the street capt times. Most of the street capt I have flown with are ex-independence guys.

I really don't think it's really possible to be hired into a CRJ as a street captain right now. There are just too many people who have sat right seat and deserve it.

DMEarc is right... Before 9/11 several regional companies were hiring DECs... but they all had lots of Jet time in other aircraft. One guy that I saw get an offer at an Air Inc conference was a 727 cargo Captain. Another friend of mine was corporate jet Captain. A bunch or turbo prop and helo time is nice, but certainly not enough to get the offer. Hopefully I'm wrong since I'm a helo/C-12 guy myself... There really are too many right seat guys who are more than qualified and just need the opportunity.

Makes sense to me.

This discussion is exactly what I was looking for to help me make my decision. I'm considering retirement, but I'm still trying to add some detail to the post Army employment plan. I'm not willing to just jump without looking...

There was a military helo guy in my new hire class that was brought in as a street CA. It was on the Beech so it is very similiar to your C-12 and would likely be an easy ground school.
What everyone says about the FO's bumping you as they upgrade is true, but when the FO's upgrade the Street CA's will have already logged about 500 hours a year of PIC and therefore in my mind are a step ahead in the game. Anyone claiming anything else about it is better to be FO first, stop kidding yourself are you going to pass up your chance to upgrade just so you can be a more senior FO. Alright then :)....Most ppl I hear this from just don't have enough time to upgrade. Let's not also forget once you have that seat, there needs to be a vacancy for that senior FO to upgrade. All that said, being a street CA is now easy task. Your QOL will definately be in the dumpster for a while and passing a type ride in an a/c you have never flown is no cake walk. Remember that it looks bad to fail a 121 training event. If you are attempting your first job in the 121 world as a street CA, all I can say is you have balls. I did this and it was quite daunting even though I had over a 1000 PIC in a similiar a/c so all I had to worry about was this new world of 121 ops...I still sweated my way through that training. Well thats about it, Good Luck to all in your endeavors. :D