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ToiletDuck 02-13-2007 09:50 AM

Mesa in China update?
 
I'm just curious about what steps have been taken with Mesa in China. I haven't heard anything since the initial news and was wondering if things have stalled or if they are moving forward. I've seen A LOT of CFI request from china lately to teach their people at several places. They are paying pretty decent too. 2k a month to be a CFI with living paid for, uniforms covered, ect. Just wondering if this has something to do with Mesa kicking it that way or not. I can't imagine the country training them for anything bigger.

rickair7777 02-13-2007 10:02 AM

It is proceeding, I think operations will start within a year.

Sanchez 02-13-2007 12:27 PM

This is J.O.'s wet dream! Non-unionized cheap labor, in a place where it is an "honor to work 6 days a week"...that quote came from a good friend of mine former citizen of China. Basically no FAA rules and no union, he'll probably charge those poor guys to fly.

ToiletDuck 02-13-2007 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Sanchez (Post 117964)
This is J.O.'s wet dream! Non-unionized cheap labor, in a place where it is an "honor to work 6 days a week"...that quote came from a good friend of mine former citizen of China. Basically no FAA rules and no union, he'll probably charge those poor guys to fly.

Well the flight training is being paid for by the government to push them into the aviation industry. He might not charge the guys to fly but he might just charge china per plane per flight?

XtremeF150 02-13-2007 02:32 PM

Well, I personally think this is his new freedom for contract negotiations this fall. He doesn't care that we aren't winning any new flying because he already has homes lined up for those aircraft. I have also heard (rumor) we are not sending any of our pilots over there. So really I don't know why MESA people would be happy about this. It only means more a/c we stand to lose. With upgrades breaking the 3 year mark on the jets here I can't understand Anyone wanting to put up with J.O.'s Bull!....:(

careerpilot 02-13-2007 02:43 PM

Who the heck would want to fly over there anyway? You guys already work for dirt now you can work for all of the tea in China.

XtremeF150 02-13-2007 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by careerpilot (Post 118029)
Who the heck would want to fly over there anyway? You guys already work for dirt now you can work for all of the tea in China.

I think you missed the point, nobody wants to work there. However it does make negotiations hard when JO doesnt care what you want because he already has a place to put his planes if we walk out or push for a better contract. I see this and am already planning my escape :rolleyes:

Ski Patrol 02-13-2007 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by XtremeF150 (Post 118031)
I think you missed the point, nobody wants to work there. However it does make negotiations hard when JO doesnt care what you want because he already has a place to put his planes if we walk out or push for a better contract. I see this and am already planning my escape :rolleyes:

It's time to call his bluff on the matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I for one am willing.

XtremeF150 02-13-2007 04:00 PM

I am too, but I think too many aren't. I would strike tomorrow if they set it up :D I would love to see JO on his knees...wait that sounds bad

ToiletDuck 02-13-2007 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by XtremeF150 (Post 118052)
I am too, but I think too many aren't. I would strike tomorrow if they set it up :D I would love to see JO on his knees...wait that sounds bad

He wouldn't do that. Just drop the hiring mins and pull them right out of school. Up the captains pay a little to keep them there then give them snotty nose FOs


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