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MartinBishop 08-09-2016 06:05 PM

XJT fires Muslim FA for not serving alcohol
 
Muslim flight attendant for ExpressJet suspended, wouldn't serve alcohol

chrisreedrules 08-09-2016 06:07 PM

Good. I would expect them to fire anyone who didn't do their job as agreed upon when they were hired.

Trowserchilli 08-09-2016 06:10 PM

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

LNL76 08-09-2016 06:12 PM

Bye, Felicia!

Idiot troublemaker knew what the job entailed when she interviewed and trained. Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame....you and the bs organization assisting you. :mad:

Mach Indicator 08-09-2016 06:13 PM

We are paid to do a service for a company. That service is spelled out in our job description. If someone chooses to not do that service, for whatever reason, they shouldn't get paid. Religion has nothing to do with it.


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Slats Extend 08-09-2016 06:23 PM

Good on XJT! I would bet a buck this thing was a setup from the start.

prex8390 08-09-2016 06:26 PM

All i read was she was suspended not fired

Day4mx 08-09-2016 06:30 PM

She be a millionaire while we're all still working 19 days a month.

Metering 08-09-2016 06:48 PM

Nothing in Islam forbids serving alcohol. Consuming yourself, sure, but not serving it.

MartinBishop 08-09-2016 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2177339)
All i read was she was suspended not fired

Sadly the character limit in the title box here at APC is way too small and I couldn't fit that word.

Walkeraviator 08-09-2016 08:04 PM

Isn't this story a few months old?

toolowterrain 08-09-2016 08:27 PM

I am bringing a lawsuit against my airline. They make me fly through clouds without providing me reasonable accommodation for my anti-cloud-hole punching beliefs.

Very very disappointed at my harsh treatment.

Bigpimppilot 08-09-2016 08:45 PM

Can flight attendants serve alcohol if they aren't 21? If so do you have to be 21 to be hired as a flight attendant? Does the job description specifically say they must serve alcohol? Just curious

pete2800 08-09-2016 09:38 PM

If she wins a lawsuit about this, then I want my Sundays. I'm going to sue and get weekends off for the rest of my life!

Winston 08-09-2016 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by MartinBishop (Post 2177404)
Sadly the character limit in the title box here at APC is way too small and I couldn't fit that word.

So you took it upon yourself to fabricate the facts of story to spin it in your desired direction?

Martin, if your instrument training doesn't work out, you've definitely got a career waiting for you at Fox News...

LNL76 08-10-2016 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot (Post 2177437)
Can flight attendants serve alcohol if they aren't 21? If so do you have to be 21 to be hired as a flight attendant? Does the job description specifically say they must serve alcohol? Just curious

Yes, no and yes.

E175 Driver 08-10-2016 03:37 AM

Vote Trump.

sherpster 08-10-2016 05:12 AM

I will never know why we bring in immigrants who don't share most of our values. A lot of the immigrants from the middle east hate gays, treat women like crap, hate dogs, hate alcohol, have a tendency towards terrorism, and are kinda lazy. Europe is going though this big time right now and it is going to get worse until they are officially Eurabia, under Shari Law, and their economies are destroyed. I have no doubt Europe will go from 1st world to 3rd world within the the next 30 years. Look at Sweden.....#2 country for rape. This is why I you will never hear me complain about immigrants from central and south america. They share our religion, values, and are super hard workers. Viva Cinco De Mayo!

MartinBishop 08-10-2016 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by Winston (Post 2177457)
So you took it upon yourself to fabricate the facts of story to spin it in your desired direction?

No not at all, you need to go back and reread my last post. I would have put the headline in here verbatim except that the forums make it impossible to do so.

SEPfield 08-10-2016 08:04 AM

Emirates Airlines. A Muslim Airline in a Muslim country still require their Muslim cabin crew to serve alcohol onboard the aircraft. If the cabin crew refuse to do their job they will be fired. Pretty sure it's the same way at Qatar, Etihad, Turkish, Malaysian...etc

Go luck trying to claim discrimination on this one.

Grumpyaviator 08-10-2016 08:19 AM

Hey Rip, how was the nap? This was over a year ago.

She converted two years after she got hired, and then refused to do her job, which is not forbidden in the quran.

Grumpyaviator 08-10-2016 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by SEPfield (Post 2177691)
Emirates Airlines. A Muslim Airline in a Muslim country still require their Muslim cabin crew to serve alcohol onboard the aircraft. If the cabin crew refuse to do their job they will be fired. Pretty sure it's the same way at Qatar, Etihad, Turkish, Malaysian...etc

Go luck trying to claim discrimination on this one.

I believe she was turned down for a job at Emerates because she refused to comply with their policies.

LNL76 08-10-2016 09:33 AM

Kuwait Airways doesn't serve alcohol. That was Always a very enjoyable 14 hour flight to JFK! :p

morerightrudder 08-10-2016 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by sherpster (Post 2177525)
I will never know why we bring in immigrants who don't share most of our values. A lot of the immigrants from the middle east hate gays, treat women like crap, hate dogs, hate alcohol, have a tendency towards terrorism, and are kinda lazy. Europe is going though this big time right now and it is going to get worse until they are officially Eurabia, under Shari Law, and their economies are destroyed. I have no doubt Europe will go from 1st world to 3rd world within the the next 30 years. Look at Sweden.....#2 country for rape. This is why I you will never hear me complain about immigrants from central and south america. They share our religion, values, and are super hard workers. Viva Cinco De Mayo!

Okay, but in this case she was a native born American who converted. Interesting that she adopted all the beliefs (and then some, it sounds like) yet still kept her very non-Muslim name.

LNL76 08-10-2016 02:39 PM

...

And a lawsuit has been filed. Charming..:rolleyes:

motorclutch 08-10-2016 02:58 PM

Bet she had no problems serving "purple drank".

wmupilot85 08-10-2016 06:01 PM

She is still "employed" at XJT, but not actively working.

Max Glide 08-11-2016 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2177485)
Vote Trump.

I 'Second' that!
:)

Max Glide 08-11-2016 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by LNL76 (Post 2177758)
Kuwait Airways doesn't serve alcohol. That was Always a very enjoyable 14 hour flight to JFK! :p

While their Rulers enjoy long trip to Europe and US and indulge in all things UnIslamic!

Hypocrisy much?

Max Glide 08-11-2016 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 2177701)
Hey Rip, how was the nap? This was over a year ago.

She converted two years after she got hired, and then refused to do her job, which is not forbidden in the quran.

Even if it is forbidden in that piece of fiction, still we shouldn’t adhere to what that book says for Muslims and for non-Muslims here in the west. And if you disagree, then spend a month in Saudi Arabia and figure out on your own what your life would be like if Islamic values are allowed to dictate life in the west!

Day4mx 08-11-2016 07:35 AM

So...if I'm a Christian and I refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding...I get sued. If I'm a Muslim, and I have to do something that violates my religion, I sue. Ok. Got it.

CBreezy 08-11-2016 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by sherpster (Post 2177525)
I will never know why we bring in immigrants who don't share most of our values. A lot of the immigrants from the middle east hate gays, treat women like crap, hate dogs, hate alcohol, have a tendency towards terrorism, and are kinda lazy. Europe is going though this big time right now and it is going to get worse until they are officially Eurabia, under Shari Law, and their economies are destroyed. I have no doubt Europe will go from 1st world to 3rd world within the the next 30 years. Look at Sweden.....#2 country for rape. This is why I you will never hear me complain about immigrants from central and south america. They share our religion, values, and are super hard workers. Viva Cinco De Mayo!

Share our values? The values Americans share is life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. We have had people from all walks of life immigrate to this country (Quakers, Mormons, Irish Catholics, Puritans, Muslims, Indians, Chinese and more). The greatest thing is their freedom to practice their religion or non-religion of choice without the fear of retribution.

Packrat 08-11-2016 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2178389)
Share our values? The values Americans share is life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. We have had people from all walks of life immigrate to this country (Quakers, Mormons, Irish Catholics, Puritans, Muslims, Indians, Chinese and more). The greatest thing is their freedom to practice their religion or non-religion of choice without the fear of retribution.

Amen. Thanks for pointing that out.

xjtgrunt 08-11-2016 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Day4mx (Post 2178349)
So...if I'm a Christian and I refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding...I get sued. If I'm a Muslim, and I have to do something that violates my religion, I sue. Ok. Got it.

Yes if you operate a business you may not discriminate against people.

Companies only have to make reasonable accommodations for religious beliefs. As serving alcohol is an essential part of being a flight attendant she will lose her suit.

So, no you don't "got it"

prex8390 08-11-2016 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by xjtgrunt (Post 2178455)
Yes if you operate a business you may not discriminate against people.

Companies only have to make reasonable accommodations for religious beliefs. As serving alcohol is an essential part of being a flight attendant she will lose her suit.

So, no you don't "got it"

$5 says she wins the lawsuit. Expressjet doesn't want to violate safe spaces now do they or create a discrimination PR nightmare for themselves. Let's face it, hurt feels are a hot ticket right now.

xjtgrunt 08-11-2016 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2178490)
$5 says she wins the lawsuit. Expressjet doesn't want to violate safe spaces now do they or create a discrimination PR nightmare for themselves. Let's face it, hurt feels are a hot ticket right now.

I could see XJT offering a nuisance settlement to the woman; but her actually winning the case, no way.

Ordell 08-11-2016 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2177318)
Good. I would expect them to fire anyone who didn't do their job as agreed upon when they were hired.

Well with this administration it will be the airline's fault.

I fully expect an EEOC investigation.

detpilot 08-11-2016 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by motorclutch (Post 2178000)
Bet she had no problems serving "purple drank".

The hell is this supposed to mean?

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beech1980 08-11-2016 01:24 PM

Express jet should sue her back for not doing her job! Why even hire someone who refuses to serve alcohol on a plane! I can't stand the ass hats this world has allowed to procreate.

Blackwing 08-11-2016 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2177318)
Good. I would expect them to fire anyone who didn't do their job as agreed upon when they were hired.



Like Christian pharmacists who refuse to dispense birth control due to their religious beliefs? Or Christian county clerks who refuse to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples due to their religious beliefs?


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