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Old 09-04-2016, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Paid2fly
So horrible...
I thought working for a regional built character?!


Seriously. A short stint at any regional would be good prep for the mainline job. There are soooo many differences from military flying to 121 flying that it can be a tad overwhelming at first. 6-12 months at a regional is a good thing. Trust me.
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Old 09-04-2016, 10:24 AM
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Thanks guys! Follow up question since I am more encouraged to punch out and run to Endeavor (although I see they offer a guaranteed interview program w/Delta but that would probably put me in a long line....?). Any recommendations for logistics? I want to settle the family in Atlanta or Greenville, SC, but I hear commuting for the regionals is a no-go/nightmare. I don't want to move my entire household of 5 to Minneapolis just to have to move again in less than a year. Should I just treat it like a deployment and expect to live out of a crash pad in MN? Ideas? Experience?
If you can move to base, do it. The loss/headache/PIA in moving again for a Major is more then made up in QOL of living in base at a regional.

Also Endeavor may not be the quickest way to DL for you, just a thought.
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Old 09-04-2016, 01:20 PM
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Great Lakes has a $7500 training contract.
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If I were in your shoes, I would solely pick a regional that will offer the best QOL. Pick one that has a base close to where you live so you can live out of base-do not commute if you can help it! Being stuck on reserve, in crashpads isn't fun and takes up a lot of time when you could be at home on your days on-call doing your own thing.

I say this losely, but I highly doubt you'll be at a regional long. I've known a ton of military guys and very few of them are in a regional longer than a year. Seems like most get the job right around the time they pass IOE or shortly thereafter...good luck!
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Old 09-04-2016, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hslightnin
The loss/headache/PIA in moving again for a Major is more then made up in QOL of living in base at a regional.
I wholesale disagree.

For a career military guy who has all ready moved his family 8-10 times in the previous 20 years, it is a no-brainer to settle the family where they want to stay and suck up the temporary pain of a commute to a relatively short-term regional job. The "moving every 2-3 years" lifestyle really starts to get old, especially as the kids are school aged and you have to pull them away from their friends repeatedly. So, the perspective is the opposite: the pain of the commute is offset by the happiness of the family not ever having to move again if they don't want to. Happy wife, happy life.

Possibly just as important, the military pays for one move at retirement -- not two.
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Originally Posted by JDfly
Thanks guys! Follow up question since I am more encouraged to punch out and run to Endeavor (although I see they offer a guaranteed interview program w/Delta but that would probably put me in a long line....?). Any recommendations for logistics? I want to settle the family in Atlanta or Greenville, SC, but I hear commuting for the regionals is a no-go/nightmare. I don't want to move my entire household of 5 to Minneapolis just to have to move again in less than a year. Should I just treat it like a deployment and expect to live out of a crash pad in MN? Ideas? Experience?
If you get a job at Endeavor, you won't need to worry about MSP (other than training and they provide single occ. hotel) Right now all new hires are going to LGA/JFK... I don't see that changing at least til next spring as there is now a backlog of guys wanting to get out to DTW/MSP as there have been no openings there with the NYC CRJ-200 base buildup. (there are 10 DTW 900 FO openings on the current bid but those won't be there for a new hire, good news is many DTW and MSP FO's have job offers at Delta and will start leaving next month)
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Old 09-05-2016, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e
I wholesale disagree.

For a career military guy who has all ready moved his family 8-10 times in the previous 20 years, it is a no-brainer to settle the family where they want to stay and suck up the temporary pain of a commute to a relatively short-term regional job.
Most of us thought the same thing in 2007. Nothing is guaranteed.
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Originally Posted by hslightnin
Most of us thought the same thing in 2007. Nothing is guaranteed.
Just curious how many times over the last 20 years you've moved your family for your job?

These things are of paramount importance to career military families. The ability for mom 'n' the kids to live where they want to live, for as long as they want, after two decades of living 2-3 years at a time wherever Uncle Sam says to live is a massive quality of life issue.

If the music stops and the majors stop hiring, then that's a different decision to make down the road...but given the reality of the hiring picture today, this month, and the rest of this year, it is folly to blow your retirement move going to a regional base.

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Old 09-05-2016, 08:45 AM
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Just curious how many times over the last 20 years you've moved your family for your job?

These things are of paramount importance to career military families. The ability for mom 'n' the kids to live where they want to live, for as long as they want, after two decades of living where Uncle Sam says to live is a massive quality of life issue.
9 moves in 10 years. And over that 10 year period I probably got a extra 2 years of time at home by not commuting
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9 moves in 10 years. And over that 10 year period I probably got a extra 2 years of time at home by not commuting
For comparison, the commuting lifestyle affords substantially more time at home than the deployment schedule most military pilots have been on for the last decade.
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